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Old May 24th 06, 10:34 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Default (OT) : Ethnicity = Ethnic Group {Race May -or- May Not Be A Factor}

M II - Americano si, Si. SI !

However - M II - Canadian . . .
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Old May 24th 06, 10:42 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Default (OT) : The Truth About 'La Raza'

On 24 May 2006 14:25:32 -0700, "RHF"
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DE,

Aren't you in California?

You do realize that the Republic of California was under
Spanish/Mexican rule until just 157 years ago, and that the
predominant culture is Latino?

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Old May 24th 06, 10:54 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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David wrote:
On 24 May 2006 14:25:32 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

DE,

Aren't you in California?

You do realize that the Republic of California was under
Spanish/Mexican rule until just 157 years ago, and that the
predominant culture is Latino?


givent eh colonation that waas going on I think frankly 160 to 175
years is a better figure since home ruless was more or less anglo by
the time the Californai resublic was declared

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Old May 24th 06, 10:56 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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David Eduardo wrote:
Hispanic can not be a race, as Hispanics can be of any race (Asian, Indian,
White, Black)


Thank you.

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Old May 25th 06, 01:51 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason aka Eduardo wrote:

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
...
In et posted
on Wed, 24 May 2006 11:48:00 GMT, David Eduardo wrote:

No, it is an advocacy group, dealing with education, job opportunities,
etc.

La Raza (the race),


Actrually, that is not how it translates.

just another racist advocacy group like the NAACP,


There is no group called "La Raza" in the US.

only happens to be more disingenuous in their identity.


except such a group does not exist.


LMFAO, you are a member (why, I don't know, since you are not of 'La Raza'
nor
are you Hispanic). And if you don't think NCLR isn't referred to at times
simply
as La Raza (by both members and non-members) you're fooling yourself (but
then
again, that seems to be a regular occurrence on your part).


It is never referred to as "la raza" despite what you think.




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Old May 25th 06, 03:21 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Default The Radio Life - It is a Generational Thing !

DE,

The Radio Life - It is a Generational Thing !
Every Two Decades a Generation of Radio Listeners
and Non-Radio-Listeners has come and gone . . .

After World War II things started to change . . .
for Radio in the American Home and as a
Form of Entertainment for the American Family.

At one time a Radio AM and later FM was the sole
form of Electronic Entertainment in most American
Homes excluding a Phonograph {Record} Player.
And most homes had a Radio in the Living Room
and Kitchen. Plus Radios were in every Car.

In the 1950s and 1960s the TV became the main
source of Home Entertainment in the Front Room
with a Radio still in the Kitchen. Clock Radios
moved into the Bedroom. Radios were in Cars.

In the 1970s and 1980s the TV / VCR / Cable
TV was the main source of Home Entertainment
in the Family Room with TV now in the Kitchen.
TV had also moved into the Bedroom. Radios
were in Cars.

In the 1990s and 2000 the TV / DVD / VCR /
Cable TV / Satellite TV is now the main source
of Home Entertainment in Every Room in the
House. Radios DVDs and Satellite Radios were
in Cars.

EVERY TWENTY YEARS A NEW GENERATION
of Home Entertainment Seekers has their own
Life Experience of what Home Entertainment IS.

* For the Children of the 1970s TV etc is their
common everyday standard of What Home
Entertainment IS - And Radio was something
you had to listen to while you were in a Car.

* For the Children of the 1990s a Home PC and
the Internet plus TV etc is their up-graded everyday
standard of What Home Entertainment IS - And
Radio and CDs were something you had to listen
to while you were in a Car.

Where the Child of the 1950s Experienced and
Knew Radio as a Part of Their Daily Life - - -
The Child of the 2000s has Not Experience Radio
in, of, and by-itself; and Knows Not Radio as the
Center of Their Home Entertainment Life.

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Old May 25th 06, 04:15 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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"David Eduardo" wrote:


It is never referred to as "la raza" despite what you think.


Except in Denver, it is. All the time.

But then, you say that a letter soliciting participation in Arbitron
first doesn't exist, then doesn't qualify as a recruitment effort,
THEN is experimental in only two markets, despite other people getting
them outside those markets.

You claim tht "HD" AM is great, despite many reports by actual
engineers who say otherwise.

You claim that no listeners exist outside your little market slices,
despite the many who personally explain that they listen.

Your claims have no weight at this point. Perhaps the Flat Earth
Society can use your services -- I think you'd fit right in.


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Eric F. Richards,
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business is to make money. But the real purpose of a business is to
create value. While it’s possible to make money in the short run
without creating much value, in the long run it’s unsustainable.
Even criminal organizations have to create value for someone."
- Steve Pavlina, April 10, 2006
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Old May 25th 06, 04:19 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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David "I'm a fake Hispanic" Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason aka Eduardo wrote:

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
...
In et posted
on Wed, 24 May 2006 11:48:00 GMT, David Eduardo wrote:

No, it is an advocacy group, dealing with education, job opportunities,
etc.

La Raza (the race),

Actrually, that is not how it translates.

just another racist advocacy group like the NAACP,

There is no group called "La Raza" in the US.

only happens to be more disingenuous in their identity.

except such a group does not exist.


LMFAO, you are a member (why, I don't know, since you are not of 'La Raza'
nor
are you Hispanic). And if you don't think NCLR isn't referred to at times
simply
as La Raza (by both members and non-members) you're fooling yourself (but
then
again, that seems to be a regular occurrence on your part).


It is never referred to as "la raza" despite what you think.


And you're full of ****, boy.

Now take your little boxcar of crap down another track.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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Old May 25th 06, 06:17 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
...
In om posted
on Wed, 24 May 2006 20:08:13 GMT, David Eduardo wrote:


"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
...
In et posted
on Wed, 24 May 2006 11:48:00 GMT, David Eduardo wrote:

No, it is an advocacy group, dealing with education, job opportunities,
etc.

La Raza (the race),


Actrually, that is not how it translates.


http://tinyurl.com/rwn5v



"Raza" in Spanish means much more than "race" and inacludes things like the
English "breed" as in cattle, dogs, horses, and many others. In the
Southwest, it means "the people" (equivalent of "pueblo" in other Hispanic
areas) or the working class of Mexican immigrants. It s ageneric term,
applied to even names of radio stations appealing to this greoup, like KLX,
La raza, in LA. You can even say, "Juan es raza" meaning that Johnny is one
of the common folks.

just another racist advocacy group like the NAACP,


There is no group called "La Raza" in the US.


I was referring to the NCLR as being the group in particular,
with "La Raza" as the focus of its activities.

only happens to be more disingenuous in their identity.


except such a group does not exist.


You even claimed membership in NCLR,
maybe not your group but something by that title exists.
http://tinyurl.com/sywdc


The NCLR is never referred to as just "La Raza" which is a generic term for
working people.


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"Eric F. Richards" wrote in message
...
"David Eduardo" wrote:


It is never referred to as "la raza" despite what you think.


Except in Denver, it is. All the time.


No, it is not. In Denver, if you hear "la raza" you are hearing a common
term for working class Mexican immigrants. NCLR is not well known in the
immigrant community... but the term "la raza" is very common. A gouy going
into a bar might say to friends he finds, "Quihúbole raza" which means,
"wazzup, bro" or you might se a "Viva La Raza" sticker, meaning "Up with the
people" or "Up with the common folks."

But then, you say that a letter soliciting participation in Arbitron
first doesn't exist, then doesn't qualify as a recruitment effort,
THEN is experimental in only two markets, despite other people getting
them outside those markets.


The letter has been used in tests in several markets, but not applied to the
survey, just a pilot test group. It will be used later this year in areas
where response rates are low to make actual recruiting easier, per Dr. Ed
Cohen, the designer of the Arbitron swample methodology with who I had lunch
yesterday.

Again: the letter is not pat of the survey methdology. The letter is not a
recruit... it is a warm up to encourage people to take part in the actual
recruit process of which the letter is not part. Again, per Arbitron, the
letter is not a recruiting letter. It is a warm up to make people more
likely to respond to the actual recruit process . Less than 0.9% log on to
the website or call back... so it is really a way to make the home more
receptive when a call comes in.


You claim tht "HD" AM is great, despite many reports by actual
engineers who say otherwise.


Since we have several dozen working and working very well, and I can name
the stations and engineers, I will wait for your list of engineers who have
actually worked in HD installs and have other opinions. I know nobody who
actually has an HD install who is not pleased.

You claim that no listeners exist outside your little market slices,
despite the many who personally explain that they listen.


However, audience measurement, in every US county and every US metro shows
an enormously small number of people actually do this, despite your
meaningless anecdotal evidence.

Your claims have no weight at this point. Perhaps the Flat Earth
Society can use your services -- I think you'd fit right in.


I actually work in radio, and with multiple successful stations. From your
posts, you don't really understand how the business of radio works.


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