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"David Eduardo" wrote:

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David Eduardo wrote:

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David Eduardo wrote:

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When did you legally change your name?

I didn't "change" anything.

Well seeing as how you were born David Frackelton Gleason
something had to change.

"Eduardo" is a name given at baptism, as is common among
Catholics.

Interesting!

Even more interesting is that whilst you were on your adventures
down south doin' this and signin' that everything that comes up is
either David Gleason or David F. Gleason.

Because I only "use" the name informally. J. Edgar Hoover did not use
his first name, out of preference. However, for the web, I thought it
was better to use both given names, as there is already a "David" on
here... and many other boards.

Wouldn't it have made sense then to be signing documents David E.
Gleason or David Eduardo Gleason or even David Eduardo Gleason F.,
especially if one were in Mexico and/or South America if that is
indeed your legal name?

One can sign pretty much as they want. My signature is just DEFG. No
other letters. Had it since I was about 13.

Interesting as well is that you've made a political contribution(s)
back in 2004 where the name recorded is David F. Gleason. Doesn't
the law require one to put down their legal name?

The law does not require all the names. Billy Bob Smith can donate as
Billy Smith. In the continental US, using a maternal surname confuses
people. It is easy to go with convention in such cases. On the
internet, I can be Michaelangelo, if I want.

Also interesting is that that name (David Eduardo Gleason/David E.
Gleason/David Eduardo Gleason Frackelton) never shows up in
anything HBC or Univision related. It's always David Gleason or
David F. Gleason. Wouldn't an officer of a corporation have to use
his/her legal name?

That is the version I use in English. In the continental USA. My
ecuadrian licences were in the other "format." This is like certain
Asians, who put their family name after the given names when in the
US, since most Americans do not adapt to the family name coming
first. Or Russians who drop the partonymic which is also not well
understood.

As you say on your website, you were born David Frackelton Gleason.
When did you legally change your name to David Eduardo Gleason
Frackelton and become a fake Hispanic?

I did not. My parents baptized me with the full name, a part of which
I did not use until recently.

Man, what an obsession. I could rename myself Madison Monroe Gleason
if I wanted to on the internet... who cares?


You are better off using a handle on Usenet so kooks can't track you
down and cause trouble in your life.

I would not post from work either so kooks can't find out the workplace
address.

Instead of using my real name I decided to use a handle and besides it
was a chance to give myself a name to be known by that I choose.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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When did you legally change your name?

I didn't "change" anything.

Well seeing as how you were born David Frackelton Gleason something had
to
change.

"Eduardo" is a name given at baptism, as is common among Catholics.

Interesting!

Even more interesting is that whilst you were on your adventures down
south
doin' this and signin' that everything that comes up is either David
Gleason or
David F. Gleason.

Because I only "use" the name informally. J. Edgar Hoover did not use his
first name, out of preference. However, for the web, I thought it was better
to use both given names, as there is already a "David" on here... and many
other boards.

Wouldn't it have made sense then to be signing documents David E. Gleason
or
David Eduardo Gleason or even David Eduardo Gleason F., especially if one
were
in Mexico and/or South America if that is indeed your legal name?

One can sign pretty much as they want. My signature is just DEFG. No other
letters. Had it since I was about 13.

Interesting as well is that you've made a political contribution(s) back
in 2004
where the name recorded is David F. Gleason. Doesn't the law require one
to put
down their legal name?

The law does not require all the names. Billy Bob Smith can donate as Billy
Smith. In the continental US, using a maternal surname confuses people. It
is easy to go with convention in such cases. On the internet, I can be
Michaelangelo, if I want.

Also interesting is that that name (David Eduardo Gleason/David E.
Gleason/David
Eduardo Gleason Frackelton) never shows up in anything HBC or Univision
related.
It's always David Gleason or David F. Gleason. Wouldn't an officer of a
corporation have to use his/her legal name?

That is the version I use in English. In the continental USA. My ecuadrian
licences were in the other "format." This is like certain Asians, who put
their family name after the given names when in the US, since most Americans
do not adapt to the family name coming first. Or Russians who drop the
partonymic which is also not well understood.

As you say on your website, you were born David Frackelton Gleason. When
did you
legally change your name to David Eduardo Gleason Frackelton and become a
fake
Hispanic?

I did not. My parents baptized me with the full name, a part of which I did
not use until recently.

Man, what an obsession. I could rename myself Madison Monroe Gleason if I
wanted to on the internet... who cares?

You're a charlatan!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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When did you legally change your name?

I didn't "change" anything.

Well seeing as how you were born David Frackelton Gleason something had
to
change.

"Eduardo" is a name given at baptism, as is common among Catholics.

Interesting!

Even more interesting is that whilst you were on your adventures down
south
doin' this and signin' that everything that comes up is either David
Gleason or
David F. Gleason.

Because I only "use" the name informally. J. Edgar Hoover did not use his
first name, out of preference. However, for the web, I thought it was better
to use both given names, as there is already a "David" on here... and many
other boards.

Wouldn't it have made sense then to be signing documents David E. Gleason
or
David Eduardo Gleason or even David Eduardo Gleason F., especially if one
were
in Mexico and/or South America if that is indeed your legal name?

One can sign pretty much as they want. My signature is just DEFG.

But you said earlier that your legal name was David Eduardo Gleason Frackelton.
Are you now saying that it's David Eduardo Frackelton Gleason (DEFG)?

Here's the quote with my comments in brackets:

"I am David Eduardo. And that is followed by my paternal [Gleason]
and maternal [Frackelton] surnames, just as on my passport, driver license and
even Cedula de Identidad from Ecuador."

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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"dxAce" wrote in message
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One can sign pretty much as they want. My signature is just DEFG.

But you said earlier that your legal name was David Eduardo Gleason
Frackelton.
Are you now saying that it's David Eduardo Frackelton Gleason (DEFG)?

In Hispanic culture, it is paternal followed by maternal. In English
culture, it is paterna at the end, and, usually, a middle name. Since my
middle name is also my maternal surname, I use it in the PROPER order
depending on the contest.

Here's the quote with my comments in brackets:

"I am David Eduardo. And that is followed by my paternal [Gleason]
and maternal [Frackelton] surnames, just as on my passport, driver license
and
even Cedula de Identidad from Ecuador."

All four names, two given and two surnames, are on all my documents.
Depending on the situation, I use the proper order of the surnames. Just, as
I said, an Asian may put his family name last when in western nations, but
use it first in Asia. They are still the same names, just put in the proper
order for each location.

For a supposed international DXer, you seem to have no clue on how names
vary in different nations.

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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One can sign pretty much as they want. My signature is just DEFG.

But you said earlier that your legal name was David Eduardo Gleason
Frackelton.
Are you now saying that it's David Eduardo Frackelton Gleason (DEFG)?

In Hispanic culture, it is paternal followed by maternal. In English
culture, it is paterna at the end, and, usually, a middle name. Since my
middle name is also my maternal surname, I use it in the PROPER order
depending on the contest.

Here's the quote with my comments in brackets:

"I am David Eduardo. And that is followed by my paternal [Gleason]
and maternal [Frackelton] surnames, just as on my passport, driver license
and
even Cedula de Identidad from Ecuador."

All four names, two given and two surnames, are on all my documents.
Depending on the situation, I use the proper order of the surnames. Just, as
I said, an Asian may put his family name last when in western nations, but
use it first in Asia. They are still the same names, just put in the proper
order for each location.

For a supposed international DXer, you seem to have no clue on how names
vary in different nations.

No clue?

LMFAO at the fake Hispanic!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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David Eduardo wrote:

Jeeze. You are obsessive. When I was baptized, the name was amended to the
birth record. Baptism usually occurs when one is a newborn, in case you had
not noticed that, too.


If you're Catholic. Christian faiths baptize you when you accept
Christ as your Savior, to wash away your sins. What sins has a baby had
time to commit?


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:

Jeeze. You are obsessive. When I was baptized, the name was amended to the
birth record. Baptism usually occurs when one is a newborn, in case you had
not noticed that, too.

If you're Catholic. Christian faiths baptize you when you accept
Christ as your Savior, to wash away your sins. What sins has a baby had
time to commit?

In Eduardo's case they were obviously preparing for the future.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

Jeeze. You are obsessive. When I was baptized, the name was amended to
the
birth record. Baptism usually occurs when one is a newborn, in case you
had
not noticed that, too.


If you're Catholic. Christian faiths baptize you when you accept
Christ as your Savior, to wash away your sins.

Catholics are the original Christians, in case you have neglected to
consider this.

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David Eduardo wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

Jeeze. You are obsessive. When I was baptized, the name was amended to
the
birth record. Baptism usually occurs when one is a newborn, in case you
had
not noticed that, too.


If you're Catholic. Christian faiths baptize you when you accept
Christ as your Savior, to wash away your sins.

Catholics are the original Christians, in case you have neglected to
consider this.
well not to quibble but the cathloic and the desnant prods practice a
heterical form of Christain by cahnging the Nicean creed from that
apodted at the First Curch concil at Nieacea under Constantinethe great
as wellas anumberof other chages other year

closer are the Eastern Orthodox

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MAT - "What sins has a baby had time to commit?"

IIRC - The concept is called 'orginal sin' :
The Sins of the Father are visited on the Children.

forgive me my god - for i have sinned - amen ~ RHF

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dxAce wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:


dxAce
Michigan
USA

you know given the way you hide your name completely you don't have aby
room to go picking at others peoples names

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RHF wrote:

DX Ace,

From about 1975 to 1997 'knowing' the Federal
Guidelines was a Co-Lateral-Duty for me.

OBTW - Yes - I know the word is spelled "Colleral".

Here is the guideline:

A person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or
other
Spanish culture of origin, regardless of race.

Nope. The American /USA/Federal Government definition of a term that was
basically invented in the USA is based on Spanish langauge and culture or a
heritige that has descended from siad language and culture. It has nothing
to do with blood. And if it did, since I am part Iberina Celt, I pass that
test too.

In fact, your wrong definition fails to recognizee the 15 million or so
Hispanics born in the USA.

It is NOT his culture of origin. It may be his adopted culture, but
certainly not
his culture of origin.

The definition used officially in the US does not have anything about
"origin" in it.

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DX Ace,

You are referring to : Statistical Policy Directive No. 15,
Race and Ethnic Standards for Federal Statistics and
Administrative Reporting.

- - - Hispanic or Latino. A person of Cuban, Mexican,
Puerto Rican, Cuban, South or Central American, or
other Spanish culture or origin, regardless of race.
The term, "Spanish origin," can be used in addition
to "Hispanic or Latino."

HISPANIC - It All Comes Down To - Who You Are [.]
Hispanic -expanded to- Latino and Chicano Hispano
Peoples of the Culture and Heritage resulting from
the Spanish Diaspora in the Americas.

Who Is Hispanic ?
http://www.isteve.com/who_is.htm
Who is Hispanic ? - The official but vague
Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC)
definition is: "All persons of Mexican, Puerto Rican,
Cuban, Central or South American, or other Spanish
culture or origin, regardless of race."
http://www.fsu.edu/~elcentro/DidUknow.html
http://www.hispanic-research.com/home/faq.htm

OTHER DEFINITIONS - LEGALLY VALID
A competing definition is "someone who grew up in a Spanish speaking
household or was born in a Spanish-speaking country." This favors
recent immigrants over longer-resident, English-speaking Hispanic
families. It also discourages families from teaching their kids
English. Further, it would exclude plenty of obvious candidates. For
example, the late musical prodigy Ritchie Valens (Ricardo Valenzuela),
a hero to Mexican-Americans, was raised speaking only English (he
learned the Spanish lyrics to "La Bamba" phonetically). Finally, it
includes Spaniards and Teutonic Paraguayans named Klaus who don't like
to talk about what their fathers were doing 1933-1945.

THE ULTIMATE LOOPHOLE - "SELF-IDENTIFICATION"
The Ultimate Loophole. According to the EEOC, you can belong to any
protected minority with which you "identify." {Self-Identification}
Since most people identify with their self-interests, anybody can
plausibly claim to sincerely identify with anything.
Note - Often any and all of the following elements
can cause and and Individual to "Self-Identify" with
being a Hispanic :
* Name
* Language
* Culture and Religion {Up Bringing}
* Heritage {Family, Ancestors and Appearance}

DOD - Department of Defense Directive 1350.2 defines Hispanic as "A
person having
origins in any of the original peoples of Mexico, Puerto Rico, Cuba,
Central or South
America, or of other Spanish cultures, regardless of race." (9A) In
the 2000 Census, it
was left up to the individual to identify if they were
Spanish/Hispanic/Latino. If the
answer was yes, then the individual had to decide if they were Mexican,
Puerto Rican,
Cuban, or Other. If the Other category was chosen, the individual could
write-in a
response. There are two central themes in determining who is Hispanic;
a common
language and lineage that can be traced back to Spain or Latin America.
http://www.soc.mil/usacapoc/eo/hhm02.pdf

Hispanic = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic
http://www.fsu.edu/~elcentro/DidUknow.html
http://www.lasculturas.com/aa/aa051701a.htm


hispanic - it all comes down to who you are ~ RHF

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David Frackelton Gleason aka Eduardo 'the confused' wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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In fact, your wrong definition fails to recognizee the 15 million or so
Hispanics born in the USA.

That's the definition. What don't you understand about the words 'other'
or
'origin'?

The US is not / has not a "Spanish cullture" although one thrives inside the
dominat culture.

The proper definition (the one you use is mostly for government procurement)
is that of the US census. In any case, both specify origin or culture, and
would indicate that a person of Hispanic culture is Hispanic. Seems clear to
everyone but you.

That is the definition used officially in the US.

No, it is the one used mostly for procurement. It is somewhat different from
the one of the OMB and the US census (/which are, in fact, the same).

Spin, spin spin...

Hey, tell me again about how you left home at 13 and moved to Mexico.

LMFAO

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on Mon, 05 Jun
2006 07:13:07 -0400, dxAce wrote:



RHF wrote:

hispanic - it all comes down to who you are ~ RHF

Yep, and Eddy Weirdo is NOT hispanic!

Sounds like it all comes down to who/what you want to be,
for whatever purpose you want it to be.

Interesting that my question relating to an acquired cultural tendency,
in my case Mexican food, despite lineage, wasn't acknowledged by DE,
but was nitpicked over the origin of the food item I referenced.

Because the food item was not Mexican but American. And that invalidates
your contention, as humorous as it may be.

Just shows that he's more of a trivial nuisance than any source of great
knowledge, shame too, he has a lot of experience in broadcasting.

You should know the difference between US adaptations of Mexican ingredients
(burritos, chili con carne, etc.) and real Mexican food. Any effort to
identify with Mexico without knowing that is, let's say, a fatal flaw.

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"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"David" wrote in message
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On 5 Jun 2006 18:20:37 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

DX Ace - You have Your Opinion -and- I have Mine.

''Hispanic surnamed'' used to be the criteria.

Long, long ago. Before the Census started asking the Hispanic Question in
1980.

Otherwise, Vicente Fox would not be Hispanic. Fujimori, former president
of
Peru, would not be. And all these others:

Assad Bucaram Mayor of Guayaquil
Carlos Menem President of Argentina
Bernardo O'Higgins, Liberator of Chile.
Alfredo Stroessner President of Paraguay
Enrique Rikenhoff Puerto Rico Olympic Committee.
José Liberman Radio Station owner in Mexico
Jacobo Zabludovsky Mexican news anchor
Raul Astor Argentine Comedian

And so on.

Hey, tell me again about how you left home at 13 and moved to Mexico.

And that has exactly "what" to do with how the surnames of Hispanics do not
have to be "Spanish?"

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All of the foreigners originated in Africa.We all originated from
Africa.
cuhulin

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"David" wrote in message
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On 5 Jun 2006 18:20:37 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

DX Ace - You have Your Opinion -and- I have Mine.

''Hispanic surnamed'' used to be the criteria.

Long, long ago. Before the Census started asking the Hispanic Question in
1980.

Otherwise, Vicente Fox would not be Hispanic. Fujimori, former president
of
Peru, would not be. And all these others:

Assad Bucaram Mayor of Guayaquil
Carlos Menem President of Argentina
Bernardo O'Higgins, Liberator of Chile.
Alfredo Stroessner President of Paraguay
Enrique Rikenhoff Puerto Rico Olympic Committee.
José Liberman Radio Station owner in Mexico
Jacobo Zabludovsky Mexican news anchor
Raul Astor Argentine Comedian

And so on.

Hey, tell me again about how you left home at 13 and moved to Mexico.

And that has exactly "what" to do with how the surnames of Hispanics do not
have to be "Spanish?"

Awwww Wardo, I just wanted you to tell me that lie again!

LMFAO

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 03:38:34 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
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On 5 Jun 2006 18:20:37 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

DX Ace - You have Your Opinion -and- I have Mine.

''Hispanic surnamed'' used to be the criteria.

Long, long ago. Before the Census started asking the Hispanic Question in
1980.
Back in the day, Mexicans were considered white people.

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"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"David" wrote in message
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On 5 Jun 2006 18:20:37 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

DX Ace - You have Your Opinion -and- I have Mine.

''Hispanic surnamed'' used to be the criteria.

Long, long ago. Before the Census started asking the Hispanic Question
in
1980.

Otherwise, Vicente Fox would not be Hispanic. Fujimori, former
president
of
Peru, would not be. And all these others:

Assad Bucaram Mayor of Guayaquil
Carlos Menem President of Argentina
Bernardo O'Higgins, Liberator of Chile.
Alfredo Stroessner President of Paraguay
Enrique Rikenhoff Puerto Rico Olympic Committee.
José Liberman Radio Station owner in Mexico
Jacobo Zabludovsky Mexican news anchor
Raul Astor Argentine Comedian

And so on.

Hey, tell me again about how you left home at 13 and moved to Mexico.

And that has exactly "what" to do with how the surnames of Hispanics do
not
have to be "Spanish?"

Awwww Wardo, I just wanted you to tell me that lie again!

Funny, but my passport has my first entrance to Mexico at age 13, and final
move there a couple of years later.

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"David" wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 03:38:34 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
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On 5 Jun 2006 18:20:37 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

DX Ace - You have Your Opinion -and- I have Mine.

''Hispanic surnamed'' used to be the criteria.

Long, long ago. Before the Census started asking the Hispanic Question in
1980.
Back in the day, Mexicans were considered white people.

That was only because the Census had no way of creating an Hispanic subset,
so Hispanics who were nto Black were put with Caucasians.

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David Frackelton Gleason aka Eduardo 'the confused' wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
On 5 Jun 2006 18:20:37 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

DX Ace - You have Your Opinion -and- I have Mine.

''Hispanic surnamed'' used to be the criteria.

Long, long ago. Before the Census started asking the Hispanic Question
in
1980.

Otherwise, Vicente Fox would not be Hispanic. Fujimori, former
president
of
Peru, would not be. And all these others:

Assad Bucaram Mayor of Guayaquil
Carlos Menem President of Argentina
Bernardo O'Higgins, Liberator of Chile.
Alfredo Stroessner President of Paraguay
Enrique Rikenhoff Puerto Rico Olympic Committee.
José Liberman Radio Station owner in Mexico
Jacobo Zabludovsky Mexican news anchor
Raul Astor Argentine Comedian

And so on.

Hey, tell me again about how you left home at 13 and moved to Mexico.

And that has exactly "what" to do with how the surnames of Hispanics do
not
have to be "Spanish?"

Awwww Wardo, I just wanted you to tell me that lie again!

Funny, but my passport has my first entrance to Mexico at age 13, and final
move there a couple of years later.

O, so it was just a visit then, not a real move. That would have put a crimp in
that gofer job you had at the radio station.

And the 'move' was more than 'couple of years later', wasn't it?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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David Frackelton Gleason aka Eduardo 'the confused' wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"David" wrote in message
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On 5 Jun 2006 18:20:37 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

DX Ace - You have Your Opinion -and- I have Mine.

''Hispanic surnamed'' used to be the criteria.

Long, long ago. Before the Census started asking the Hispanic Question
in
1980.

Otherwise, Vicente Fox would not be Hispanic. Fujimori, former
president
of
Peru, would not be. And all these others:

Assad Bucaram Mayor of Guayaquil
Carlos Menem President of Argentina
Bernardo O'Higgins, Liberator of Chile.
Alfredo Stroessner President of Paraguay
Enrique Rikenhoff Puerto Rico Olympic Committee.
José Liberman Radio Station owner in Mexico
Jacobo Zabludovsky Mexican news anchor
Raul Astor Argentine Comedian

And so on.

Hey, tell me again about how you left home at 13 and moved to Mexico.

And that has exactly "what" to do with how the surnames of Hispanics do
not
have to be "Spanish?"

Awwww Wardo, I just wanted you to tell me that lie again!

Funny, but my passport has my first entrance to Mexico at age 13, and final
move there a couple of years later.

That's just a bit different from this quote:

"I was 13 when I went to Latin America, and grew up there, in homes where
only Spanish was spoken."

It's all coming back to you now...

(Apologies to Celine Dion)

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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"David" wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 03:38:34 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
On 5 Jun 2006 18:20:37 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

DX Ace - You have Your Opinion -and- I have Mine.

''Hispanic surnamed'' used to be the criteria.

Long, long ago. Before the Census started asking the Hispanic Question in
1980.
Back in the day, Mexicans were considered white people.

That was only because the Census had no way of creating an Hispanic subset,
so Hispanics who were nto Black were put with Caucasians.

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"dxAce" wrote in message
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Funny, but my passport has my first entrance to Mexico at age 13, and
final
move there a couple of years later.

O, so it was just a visit then, not a real move. That would have put a
crimp in
that gofer job you had at the radio station.

Actually, the job was on the permanent move, at, I think, age 15. It was a
formal internship program with Ramiro Garza, the most successful and famous
radio programmer ever in Mexico. The first visit was to do an archeology
project in Mexico and Tikal, Guatemala.

And the 'move' was more than 'couple of years later', wasn't it?

About 18 months, in fact. At age 17, I was in Ecuador in High School and
putting a radio station on the air.

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David Frackelton Gleason aka Eduardo 'the confused' wrote:

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David Eduardo wrote:

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David Eduardo wrote:

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On 5 Jun 2006 18:20:37 -0700, "RHF"
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DX Ace - You have Your Opinion -and- I have Mine.

''Hispanic surnamed'' used to be the criteria.

Long, long ago. Before the Census started asking the Hispanic
Question
in
1980.

Otherwise, Vicente Fox would not be Hispanic. Fujimori, former
president
of
Peru, would not be. And all these others:

Assad Bucaram Mayor of Guayaquil
Carlos Menem President of Argentina
Bernardo O'Higgins, Liberator of Chile.
Alfredo Stroessner President of Paraguay
Enrique Rikenhoff Puerto Rico Olympic Committee.
José Liberman Radio Station owner in Mexico
Jacobo Zabludovsky Mexican news anchor
Raul Astor Argentine Comedian

And so on.

Hey, tell me again about how you left home at 13 and moved to
Mexico.

And that has exactly "what" to do with how the surnames of Hispanics
do
not
have to be "Spanish?"

Awwww Wardo, I just wanted you to tell me that lie again!

Funny, but my passport has my first entrance to Mexico at age 13, and
final
move there a couple of years later.

That's just a bit different from this quote:

"I was 13 when I went to Latin America, and grew up there, in homes where
only Spanish was spoken."

I went for long intervals, and returned to the US on several occasions for
short periods. The last was to go to Quincy, IL, to buy equipment for a
radio station. But I was living in Latin America most of the time from when
I was 13.

It's all coming back to you now...

No, it is just about how much detail you want. It should be enough to know
that from the end of my 13th year onwards, I spent nearly all my time in
Latin America or in Latino communities in the US. I'm really sorry, but if I
knew you cared that much, I would have saved all my airline tickets.

(OT) : There is "Hispanic" and there is 'hispanic'
 

David Eduardo wrote:

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Funny, but my passport has my first entrance to Mexico at age 13, and
final
move there a couple of years later.

O, so it was just a visit then, not a real move. That would have put a
crimp in
that gofer job you had at the radio station.



Actually, the job was on the permanent move, at, I think, age 15.

But at age 16, weren't you the editor of the school paper there in Ohio?

It was a
formal internship program with Ramiro Garza, the most successful and famous
radio programmer ever in Mexico. The first visit was to do an archeology
project in Mexico and Tikal, Guatemala.

Well, didn't THAT put a crimp in your supposed 'jobs' in Cleveland at the time?



And the 'move' was more than 'couple of years later', wasn't it?

About 18 months, in fact.

uh-huh.



At age 17, I was in Ecuador in High School and
putting a radio station on the air.

Gee, didn't you 'move' to Mexico at age 17? You were born in 1946 and supposedly
went to Mexico in 1963. According to your website you didn't show up in Ecuador
till 1964.

I think you'd better read your resume!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Frackelton Gleason aka Eduardo 'the confused' wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"David" wrote in message
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On 5 Jun 2006 18:20:37 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

DX Ace - You have Your Opinion -and- I have Mine.

''Hispanic surnamed'' used to be the criteria.

Long, long ago. Before the Census started asking the Hispanic
Question
in
1980.

Otherwise, Vicente Fox would not be Hispanic. Fujimori, former
president
of
Peru, would not be. And all these others:

Assad Bucaram Mayor of Guayaquil
Carlos Menem President of Argentina
Bernardo O'Higgins, Liberator of Chile.
Alfredo Stroessner President of Paraguay
Enrique Rikenhoff Puerto Rico Olympic Committee.
José Liberman Radio Station owner in Mexico
Jacobo Zabludovsky Mexican news anchor
Raul Astor Argentine Comedian

And so on.

Hey, tell me again about how you left home at 13 and moved to
Mexico.

And that has exactly "what" to do with how the surnames of Hispanics
do
not
have to be "Spanish?"

Awwww Wardo, I just wanted you to tell me that lie again!

Funny, but my passport has my first entrance to Mexico at age 13, and
final
move there a couple of years later.

That's just a bit different from this quote:

"I was 13 when I went to Latin America, and grew up there, in homes where
only Spanish was spoken."

I went for long intervals, and returned to the US on several occasions for
short periods. The last was to go to Quincy, IL, to buy equipment for a
radio station. But I was living in Latin America most of the time from when
I was 13.

It's all coming back to you now...

No, it is just about how much detail you want. It should be enough to know
that from the end of my 13th year onwards, I spent nearly all my time in
Latin America or in Latino communities in the US. I'm really sorry, but if I
knew you cared that much, I would have saved all my airline tickets.

You'd better read your resume, because you're full of crap!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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"bpnjensen" wrote in message
oups.com...
dxAce wrote:

(Apologies to Celine Dion)

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Sheesh - you dump on Canadians so often - in my book, *she's* the most
important reason to loathe them (if you are so inclined, of course)...
;-)

They did good this week with their nabbing of those 17 terror suspects.

BJ

Go OILERS!
:-)

(OT) : What About - "Heinz 57" Americans
 

BpnJ ?

"the unbelievable Heinz-57 witnessed by the United States."

What About - "Heinz 57" Americans ?

can you expand on this please ~ RHF
.
.
.. .


bpnjensen wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:

Otherwise, Vicente Fox would not be Hispanic. Fujimori, former president of
Peru, would not be. And all these others:

Assad Bucaram Mayor of Guayaquil
Carlos Menem President of Argentina
Bernardo O'Higgins, Liberator of Chile.
Alfredo Stroessner President of Paraguay
Enrique Rikenhoff Puerto Rico Olympic Committee.
José Liberman Radio Station owner in Mexico
Jacobo Zabludovsky Mexican news anchor
Raul Astor Argentine Comedian

And so on.

And for that matter, the unbelievable Heinz-57 witnessed by the United
States. There is no one "American" surname except arguably for Native
American tribal names - every one is of foreign origin.

Bruce Jensen

(OT) : There is "Hispanic" and there is 'hispanic'
 

David - "Back in the day, Mexicans were considered white people."

David - Not Always -and- Not In Every State.

For a time in California between 1848 and 1850 and beyond . . .
Many so-called "Mexicans" could not Own and Inherit land.
CALIFORNIA = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California

The treatment of so-called "Mexicans" in Texas was not
the same as so-called "White People" {Americans and
European Immigrants}
TEXAS = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas
FWIW - Many consider the 'status' of "Mexicans" below that
of the so-called "Negros" for a good part of Texas History.
NEGROS = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negro

Checking something off on a US {Federal} Census Form
does automatically bestow 'Equal Rights for All' and
"Equal Rights for All" did not mean the same thing in
each State throughout these United States of America.

In the United States of America several Federal Laws have
been called the "Civil Rights Acts" from 1866 to 1991.
CIVIL RIGHTS = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act
Most of them have been ineffective - because it takes
a Generation (about 20-Years) of Living-under-the-Law
for a Society to Accept-the-Law and Live-within-the-Law
as part of the Natural Order of Things within the Society.


so say i - my opinions stated as facts ~ RHF

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David Eduardo wrote:

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Gee, didn't you 'move' to Mexico at age 17? You were born in 1946 and
supposedly
went to Mexico in 1963. According to your website you didn't show up in
Ecuador
till 1964.

At age 17.

I think you'd better read your resume!

The very term "résumé" means a condensation.

You seem to have a problem with the fact that a person can be part of a
year
in multiple places. Like doing late '62 to early 63 in an internship, and
alternating between two places starting two years earlier (which was not
relevant to radio... I did a published paper on the religious
significances
of the Mayan ball courts in the second and third civilizations, including
excavations in Tikal).

Where was the paper published? I'll try to have my library get ahold of a
copy.

In the student archeology magazine of the U of Pittsburg. I think it was in
late 62. If you find a copy, I would like to have one. My only one got lost
in moving. All I have is my own draft copy, and many of th ephotographs of
Tikal prior to its actual excavation.

(OT) : There is "Hispanic" and there is 'hispanic'
 

Even when I am wrong,,,, I am always Right.Railroaded movie is on Radio
tv now.
cuhulin

(OT) : There is "Hispanic" and there is 'hispanic'
 

In article t,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Gee, didn't you 'move' to Mexico at age 17? You were born in 1946 and
supposedly
went to Mexico in 1963. According to your website you didn't show up in
Ecuador
till 1964.

At age 17.

I think you'd better read your resume!

The very term "résumé" means a condensation.

You seem to have a problem with the fact that a person can be part of a
year
in multiple places. Like doing late '62 to early 63 in an internship, and
alternating between two places starting two years earlier (which was not
relevant to radio... I did a published paper on the religious
significances
of the Mayan ball courts in the second and third civilizations, including
excavations in Tikal).

Where was the paper published? I'll try to have my library get ahold of a
copy.

In the student archeology magazine of the U of Pittsburg. I think it was in
late 62. If you find a copy, I would like to have one. My only one got lost
in moving. All I have is my own draft copy, and many of th ephotographs of
Tikal prior to its actual excavation.

Here is an excellent site with maps and pictures.
http://mayaruins.com/yucmap.html

--
Telamon
Ventura, California