I bought a large capacitance hat for my vertical, but the antenna still gets wet when it rains.
 

Did I get ripped off?

I bought a large capacitance hat for my vertical, but the antenna still gets wet when it rains.
 

New Ham wrote:
Did I get ripped off?

You might try a Stetson.

I bought a large capacitance hat for my vertical, but the antenna still gets wet when it rains.
 

"John S." wrote in message
oups.com...

New Ham wrote:
Did I get ripped off?

You might try a Stetson.


four or five X beaver John?

BH

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John S. wrote:
jawod wrote:

John S. wrote:

New Ham wrote:


Did I get ripped off?


You might try a Stetson.


Try a Dunce Cap (low capacitance) attached to your screwdriver and
manually adjust until your dip meter reads moron :)


Uh oh...feeling a bit testy today???

Not, not at all...didn't you see my :) ? No offense intended.

I bought a large capacitance hat for my vertical, but the antenna still gets wet when it rains.
 

In article .com, "John S." wrote:

jawod wrote:
John S. wrote:
New Ham wrote:

Did I get ripped off?


You might try a Stetson.

Try a Dunce Cap (low capacitance) attached to your screwdriver and
manually adjust until your dip meter reads moron :)

Uh oh...feeling a bit testy today???



What good's a hat if it don't keep the antenna dry? I think I'll keep it
though, for some odd reason my SWR's are better.

I bought a large capacitance hat for my vertical, but the antennastill gets wet when it rains.
 

John S. wrote:

Brian Denley wrote:

David G. Nagel wrote:

John S. wrote:

Or looking for a left-handed crescent wrench and fetching a bucket of
prop wash.

The problem with this joke is that the wrench exhists. Handedness in a
wrench is determined by which thumb closes the jaws. Right thumb right
hand wrench, left thumb left handed wrench.

I have a left handed crescent type wrench. Where was it made?
POLAND of course.

Wrench available for inspection.

Dave WD9BDZ



At 23, I took a job as a young engineer at a place that had previously been
a gyroscope manufacturer. As the new guy, they asked my to deliver a
briefcase to the boss' office and (you guessed it) there was a spinning gryo
in the briefcase. I got a big surprise when I tried to turn a corner in the
corrider and the briefcase kept going straight ahead! A great 'new guy'
trick.
--



Or send the new guy in engineering to supply for a pressurized
container of Dihydrogen Monoxide.

Careful that stuff is extremely deadly if inhaled.


Or send the new finance guy to get the difference finder.

I bought a large capacitance hat for my vertical, but the antenna still gets wet when it rains.
 

jawod wrote:
John S. wrote:
jawod wrote:

John S. wrote:

New Ham wrote:


Did I get ripped off?


You might try a Stetson.


Try a Dunce Cap (low capacitance) attached to your screwdriver and
manually adjust until your dip meter reads moron :)


Uh oh...feeling a bit testy today???

Not, not at all...didn't you see my :) ? No offense intended.

Ooops...please accept my apology.

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Brian Hill wrote:
"John S." wrote in message
oups.com...

New Ham wrote:

Did I get ripped off?

You might try a Stetson.



four or five X beaver John?

BH


No, no! Thats a waste of good beaver :

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Ahhhh!! Those only work when it rains capacitors !.

73, Steve, K9DCI


"John S." wrote in message
oups.com...

New Ham wrote:
Did I get ripped off?

You might try a Stetson.

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Somebody wrote:

No. This is an honest to god left handed crescent style wrench. Hold in
left hand and close the jaws using the left thumb.

I have a metric one :-)




Yep ! Me too. I have a 150mm "Crescent" wrench! Works great on metric
nuts & bolts.

73, Steve, K9DCI

I bought a large capacitance hat for my vertical, but theanten...
 

I own some old,old antique tools.Some of them are weird looking,such as
my triple jointed brace and bit.
cuhulin

I bought a large capacitance hat for my vertical, but the antenna still gets wet when it rains.
 

Steve N. wrote:
Somebody wrote:

No. This is an honest to god left handed crescent style wrench. Hold in
left hand and close the jaws using the left thumb.

I have a metric one :-)




Yep ! Me too. I have a 150mm "Crescent" wrench! Works great on metric
nuts & bolts.

73, Steve, K9DCI

Yeah, and I've had these two left handed pipe wrenches around for
years. This southpaw found them indispensable on galvanized, but can't
seem to get them to work on copper pipe.

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"Dave Oldridge" wrote in message
9...
Jim - NN7K wrote in news:blJhg.19147
:

Reminds me of the time (many years ago), when the
new kid on the gang was ordered to "Wash the
Dishes" (microwave ), on a 150 foot tower ! Kid
decided it was time to quit! Had to
tell him it was a JOKE, or get the WHOLE Gang
in hot water !!! Jim NN7K

Yeah. When I was in the RCAF many years ago, a common thing was to ask a
newbie to go to the tool crib for a bucket of propwash.


--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667

When I reached my first duty assignment in the USAF I was sent on a fools
errand to get 1000 yards of flight line. When I got to the place I was
suppose to pick it up I told the guys there that I knew what flightline was
but I had an idea for a joke on the guy that sent me down there.They were
very happy to help. We went out back of the base and loaded up a truck with
rubble from flightline construction then took it back and put it the POV
pickup of they guy who had sent me out. When I went back to the shop I told
him I had the flightline but didnt think I had the thousand yards he had
requested. This got him and everyone else in the shop curious and they all
wanted to see what I had brought back. Thats when I told him to go look in
the back of his pickup.

I bought a large capacitance hat for my vertical, but the antenna still gets wet when it rains.
 

In article .com, wrote:

New Ham wrote:

What good's a hat if it don't keep the antenna dry? I think I'll keep it
though, for some odd reason my SWR's are better.

What are SWR's? Does your antenna have multiple standing wave ratios?
Were they sick? Did they have MPD? Do you SWR's look in the mirror each
morning and say "well, who are we going to be today?"

Does the standing wave ratio own something called "are better"?

Are SWR's related to 73's, and if so does the hat help 73's also? Is
your antenna still a fertile female that gets wet whenever a large
capacitance hat climbs on top?

A local school had "Spelling Award's Day" on a sign out front. When I
saw a pamphlet, it said "Selling Awards' Day".

Maybe it was award's for selling extra 's as a school project
"SWR's" and "73's" , or should I s'ay award's for s'ellin extras'
s'sses ?

73's and Happy SWR's to all,
Tom's


It's a multi-band vertical and every band different Standing Wave Radio's.

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Methinks your leg was being pulled.

The SWR with the apostrophe s is a grammatical error. The apostrophe s indicates
that the SWR is possessive, that the SWR owns something; or, that the SWR is
doing something. The apostrophe s is not plural!!

The plural, multiple, SWR is denoted SWRs.

New Ham wrote:

In article .com, wrote:

New Ham wrote:


What good's a hat if it don't keep the antenna dry? I think I'll keep it
though, for some odd reason my SWR's are better.

What are SWR's? Does your antenna have multiple standing wave ratios?
Were they sick? Did they have MPD? Do you SWR's look in the mirror each
morning and say "well, who are we going to be today?"

Does the standing wave ratio own something called "are better"?
SNIPPED

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"Cecil Moore" wrote ...
Dave wrote:
Methinks your leg was being pulled.

The SWR with the apostrophe s is a grammatical error. The apostrophe
s indicates that the SWR is possessive, that the SWR owns something;
or, that the SWR is doing something. The apostrophe s is not plural!!

On the contrary, the plural of the letter A is A's. The plural
of the number 3 is 3's. It's not too much of a stretch to assume
that the plural of SWR is SWR's.

From Webster's: "apostrophe - a make used to indicate ... the
plural of letters or figures."

To take the argument well into absurdity (as if it
needed any help), we can discuss whether your
Webster's is descriptive or prescriptive.

I bought a large capacitance hat for my vertical, but the antenna still gets wet when it rains.
 

"Not Lloyd" wrote in message
...

Well, Webster shows more than one error, at least insofar as formal
English
goes. What Webster depicts is the "dumbing down" of what our kids are
being
taught today.
Do what you wish, but those who are better educated will continue to use
the
apostrophe to denote the possessive rather than the plural.



more importantly, you didn't post with proper bracketed attributions
(Cecil's comments in particular). so go somewhere else with your grammar
Nazi crap, or i'll start with my proper netiquette rantings.

Gravity

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"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
. com...
Dave wrote:
Methinks your leg was being pulled.

The SWR with the apostrophe s is a grammatical error. The apostrophe s
indicates that the SWR is possessive, that the SWR owns something; or,
that the SWR is doing something. The apostrophe s is not plural!!

On the contrary, the plural of the letter A is A's. The plural
of the number 3 is 3's. It's not too much of a stretch to assume
that the plural of SWR is SWR's.

From Webster's: "apostrophe - a make used to indicate ... the
plural of letters or figures."
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Well, Webster shows more than one error, at least insofar as formal English
goes. What Webster depicts is the "dumbing down" of what our kids are being
taught today.
Do what you wish, but those who are better educated will continue to use the
apostrophe to denote the possessive rather than the plural.

I bought a large capacitance hat for my vertical, but the antennastill gets wet when it rains.
 

Richard Crowley wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote ...
From Webster's: "apostrophe - a make used to indicate ... the
plural of letters or figures."

To take the argument well into absurdity (as if it
needed any help), we can discuss whether your
Webster's is descriptive or prescriptive.

That definition agrees with what I learned in English
class 50+ years ago. The plural of a number uses an
apostrophe. So 73's would indeed be the plural of 73
as in "many best regards". It's no stretch to assume
that the plural of SWR would be SWR's.

Incidentally, I have an obvious typo in the definition
that the spell-checker didn't catch. Should have been:

"apostrophe - a mark used to indicate ... the plural of
letters or figures."

I have a "Webster's New Universal Unabridged Dictionary"
which contains a "Basic Manual of Style" in the back.
Here's what it says for "Apostrophe: ... 3. To form the
plurals of letters or figures add an apostrophe and an s."
That's seems to be prescriptive.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

I bought a large capacitance hat for my vertical, but the antennastill gets wet when it rains.
 

Not Lloyd wrote:
Do what you wish, but those who are better educated will continue to use the
apostrophe to denote the possessive rather than the plural.

Would a "Basic Manual of Style" change your mind?

I have a "Webster's New Universal Unabridged Dictionary"
which contains a "Basic Manual of Style" in the back.
Here's what it says for "Apostrophe: 1. ... 2. ... 3. To
form the plurals of letters or figures add an apostrophe
and an s. ..."

It does say that a few people object to number 3. As in
many other areas of the English language, the context of
the use of the apostrophe determines its function:

1. to replace missing letters,
2. possessive,
3. plurals of letters or numbers.

P.S. The better educated posters avoid violating the
attribution rules for newsgroups.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

I bought a large capacitance hat for my vertical, but the antennastill gets wet when it rains.
 

Richard Crowley wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote ...

Dave wrote:

Methinks your leg was being pulled.

The SWR with the apostrophe s is a grammatical error. The apostrophe
s indicates that the SWR is possessive, that the SWR owns something;
or, that the SWR is doing something. The apostrophe s is not plural!!


On the contrary, the plural of the letter A is A's. The plural
of the number 3 is 3's. It's not too much of a stretch to assume
that the plural of SWR is SWR's.

From Webster's: "apostrophe - a make used to indicate ... the
plural of letters or figures."


To take the argument well into absurdity (as if it
needed any help), we can discuss whether your
Webster's is descriptive or prescriptive.
good one
If I can ever help in increasing the absurdity of these newsgroups, I am
glad to do so.

BTW, all dictionaries are descriptive.

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jawod wrote:
BTW, all dictionaries are descriptive.

But all Basic Manuals of Style are prescriptive.
Please see my other posting.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

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jawod writes:

I don't understand. Possessive is the new standard? Your chops get busted
whey you write "last year's work"?
That IS possessive.

Is it? I've always wondered. Does the work "belong" to last year?
Does last year "own" the work? It's *my* work that was done last year.

Curious,

// marc

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"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...



I get my chops busted if I write with say last year's work instead of
last years work.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -


1. Too bad you have to work for/with people like that. " ... last year's
work" is correct. The possessive does not exclusively denote ownership. It
also denotes the "of or pertaining to" relationship, as in "Cleveland's bus
system."

2. I just went to the McGraw-Hill Learning Center

http://highered.mcgraw-hill.com/site.../chapter1/apos
trophes.html

and took their apostrophe quiz

Results Reporter
Out of 17 questions, you answered 17 correctly, for a final grade of 100%.

17 correct (100%)
0 incorrect (0%)
0 unanswered (0%)

Here's the most interesting one:

Last years womens softball team is much better than this years. [The stem
omits apostrophes.]

C) Last year's women's softball team is much better than this year's.
Feedback: Correct!

3. Despite the absolute correctness of the apostrophe for the plural of
numbers and letters, I see a lot of acronyms and abbreviations made plural
by the addition of an "s" without the apostrophe and I don't flinch. I
think the language is evolving regarding acronyms, which, after all, are
less than 100 years old. Therefore, I vote to accept "SWRs."

73,
"Sal"
(KD6VKW)

I bought a large capacitance hat for my vertical, but theanten...
 

You want to see errors? Go check out the encyclopedia brittanica.
cuhulin

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Marco S Hyman wrote:
jawod writes:


I don't understand. Possessive is the new standard? Your chops get busted
whey you write "last year's work"?
That IS possessive.


Is it? I've always wondered. Does the work "belong" to last year?
Does last year "own" the work? It's *my* work that was done last year.

Curious,

// marc
yes at least to me "last year's work" as opposed to some other
"year's work" pretty sure that's possessive

John

I bought a large capacitance hat for my vertical, but the antennastill gets wet when it rains.
 

jawod wrote:
yes at least to me "last year's work" as opposed to some other
"year's work" pretty sure that's possessive

A year is an it. Is it possessive because it's its work?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

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Everybody is correct and everybody is wrong.

According to Turabian's "A Manual for Writers", plurals of most single
and multiple capital letters used as nouns are formed by adding "s"
alone. Example: SWRs
Form the plural of small letters, capital letters with periods, and
capital letters that would be confusing if "s" alone were added by
adding apostrophe and "s".

Now, everybody, back to work and mind your p's and Qs

73

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hayseed wrote:

Everybody is correct and everybody is wrong.

According to Turabian's "A Manual for Writers", plurals of most single
and multiple capital letters used as nouns are formed by adding "s"
alone. Example: SWRs
Form the plural of small letters, capital letters with periods, and
capital letters that would be confusing if "s" alone were added by
adding apostrophe and "s".

Now, everybody, back to work and mind your p's and Qs

73


My question is: just what is/are "SWR's" and "SWRs"

Dave WD9BDZ

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hayseed wrote:
Now, everybody, back to work and mind your p's and Qs

As in words like, "amen", are pronounced "ah".

That certainly seems confusing to me and the confusion
is not apparent until more than halfway through the
sentence.

A's in words like, "amen", are pronounced "ah".

No confusion there.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

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In article , Telamon wrote:
In article ,
"David G. Nagel" wrote:

Cecil Moore wrote:

hayseed wrote:

Now, everybody, back to work and mind your p's and Qs



How about dropping rec.radio.shortwave from the news group list.

Thanks in advance.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


Did I get ripped off?

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Cecil Moore wrote:
jawod wrote:

yes at least to me "last year's work" as opposed to some other
"year's work" pretty sure that's possessive


A year is an it. Is it possessive because it's its work?
How did this get started? :)

Whose on first?

No answer on the antenna trickle charger?

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On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 21:50:57 -0700, "Sal M. Onella"
wrote:


"clifto" wrote in message
...
Incidental note: I've never understood how people who use "it's" as a
possessive never even think to use "hi's" (though some use "her's" and
"their's").

Yup, me too. I listen to "A Way With Words," a radio program on KPBS
(available streaming at kpbs.org) whose host is language writer Richard
Lederer ("Anguished English," "Get Thee To A Punnery," etc). Richard said
that "it's" for "its" (possessive) was considered correct until near the end
of the 19th century. I didn't know that.

That's as bad as using entitled. Michigan Tech voted that as one of
the 10 words that should be eliminated in one of their yearly
selections.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com.