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Bob Miller June 8th 06 08:01 PM

newbie needs help erecting an antenna near Youngstown, Ohio
 
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 20:11:28 -0500, JDL wrote:

I live in a small town north of Youngstown. I have a Sangean 505 (has
sideband) also a 622 Sangean (just receivers, no transceivers -- yet). The
reception with the built in antenna isn't very good. I want to erect some
sort of wire loop antenna, but don't know what kind of wire, what sort of
grounding, length, etc. to use. I mainly want to listen to shortwave
broadcasts like VOA, BBC, but also private hams on the sideband. I can buy
someone dinner (and pay for all materials), if they help me out erecting an
antenna. I went to Radio Shack but they were ignorant about shortwave
stuff.


Down and dirty, get about 100 feet of insulated wire from the hardware
store, attach it to your radio's external antenna terminal, run the
wire out your window, string it around the yard as high as you can,
don't run it over or under any high-power electricity lines. This will
work pretty much as well as more complicated stuff.

bob
k5qwg



Thanks,
Justin

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JDL June 9th 06 05:11 AM

newbie needs help erecting an antenna near Youngstown, Ohio
 
Bob Miller wrote in
:

On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 20:11:28 -0500, JDL wrote:

I live in a small town north of Youngstown. I have a Sangean 505 (has
sideband) also a 622 Sangean (just receivers, no transceivers -- yet).
The reception with the built in antenna isn't very good. I want to
erect some sort of wire loop antenna, but don't know what kind of
wire, what sort of grounding, length, etc. to use. I mainly want to
listen to shortwave broadcasts like VOA, BBC, but also private hams on
the sideband. I can buy someone dinner (and pay for all materials),
if they help me out erecting an antenna. I went to Radio Shack but
they were ignorant about shortwave stuff.


Down and dirty, get about 100 feet of insulated wire from the hardware
store, attach it to your radio's external antenna terminal, run the
wire out your window, string it around the yard as high as you can,
don't run it over or under any high-power electricity lines. This will
work pretty much as well as more complicated stuff.

bob
k5qwg



Thanks for the info.. Any particular guage of wire? Also, could I buy
some sort of connector to be able to plug the wire into the antenna jack
on the 505 Sangean? Or should I just use an alligator clip?

Thanks,
Justin

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Bob Miller June 9th 06 01:22 PM

newbie needs help erecting an antenna near Youngstown, Ohio
 
On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:11:13 -0500, JDL wrote:

Bob Miller wrote in
:

On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 20:11:28 -0500, JDL wrote:

I live in a small town north of Youngstown. I have a Sangean 505 (has
sideband) also a 622 Sangean (just receivers, no transceivers -- yet).
The reception with the built in antenna isn't very good. I want to
erect some sort of wire loop antenna, but don't know what kind of
wire, what sort of grounding, length, etc. to use. I mainly want to
listen to shortwave broadcasts like VOA, BBC, but also private hams on
the sideband. I can buy someone dinner (and pay for all materials),
if they help me out erecting an antenna. I went to Radio Shack but
they were ignorant about shortwave stuff.


Down and dirty, get about 100 feet of insulated wire from the hardware
store, attach it to your radio's external antenna terminal, run the
wire out your window, string it around the yard as high as you can,
don't run it over or under any high-power electricity lines. This will
work pretty much as well as more complicated stuff.

bob
k5qwg



Thanks for the info.. Any particular guage of wire? Also, could I buy
some sort of connector to be able to plug the wire into the antenna jack
on the 505 Sangean? Or should I just use an alligator clip?

Thanks,
Justin


12, 14 or 16 guage would be the most common at the hardware store. Any
would work; the 12 guage is the biggest and most noticeable, if that's
a factor.

I'm not familiar with the connections on the back of a Sangean 505,
but if you took the radio to a place like Radio Shack they could
probably outfit you with a connector that fits; one that doesn't need
soldering would be easiest to work with.

Bob
k5qwg



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Mark Zenier June 9th 06 04:21 PM

newbie needs help erecting an antenna near Youngstown, Ohio
 
In article ,
Bob Miller wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:11:13 -0500, JDL wrote:

....
Thanks for the info.. Any particular guage of wire? Also, could I buy
some sort of connector to be able to plug the wire into the antenna jack
on the 505 Sangean? Or should I just use an alligator clip?


12, 14 or 16 guage would be the most common at the hardware store. Any
would work; the 12 guage is the biggest and most noticeable, if that's
a factor.


Small (24?) guage doorbell wire should work fine, and be a whole lot
cheaper. (And if you get a color that matches the surroundings, it
"disappears").

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)


RHF June 9th 06 08:35 PM

External Antenna Input for most 'portable' AM / FM Shortwave Radios with 1/8" Mono Jack
 
Bob [K5QWG],

External Antenna Input for most 'portable' AM / FM Shortwave Radios
with 1/8" Mono Jack
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...sage/10074?l=1

Most Sangean 'portable' AM / FM Shortwave Radios
simply use a 1/8" Mono Jack for the External Antenna
Input. As do many 'portable' AM / FM Shortwave Radios.
* Barrel Circuit-Board-Ground (RF Signal Ground)
* Tip Antenna RF Signal Input

However, the Sangean ATS-909 'portable' AM / FM
Shortwave Radio uses a 1/8" Stereo Jack for the External
Antenna Input.
* Barrel Circuit-Board-Ground (RF Signal Ground)
* Tip Shortwave Antenna RF Signal Input
* Middle-Ring AM/MW Antenna RF Signal Input

Caution - Do Not - Plug your External Antenna into the
Headphone / External Speaker Jack (1/8') -and- Do Not -
Plug your Headphone / External Speaker into the External
Antenna Jack (1/8") - It's easy to do sometimes and
strangly the Radio does not work to well.
- - - Oops - Been There - Done That ! :o)

Two -IFs- when using an External Antenna with a
'portable' AM / FM Shortwave Radio :

IF # 1 - When Using In-Door External Antenna with
a 'portable' AM / FM Shortwave Radio - A Ground
{Wire} connection may not be required - Although
connecting a Ground may help reduce the Noise
{ Try It and See }

IF # 2 - When Using Out-Side External Antenna with
a 'portable' AM / FM Shortwave Radio - A Ground
{Wire} connection is Required for Electrical Safety.
Usually a Ground connection will help reduce the
Noise when using and Out-Side External Antenna.
{ Do It and See }


hope this helps - iane ~ RHF
..
Shortwave Listener Antennas = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
SWL Antenna Group = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf

David June 9th 06 11:51 PM

External Antenna Input for most 'portable' AM / FM Shortwave Radios with 1/8" Mono Jack
 
On 9 Jun 2006 12:35:31 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

* Middle-Ring AM/MW Antenna RF Signal Input

Caution - Do Not - Plug your External Antenna into the
Headphone / External Speaker Jack (1/8') -and- Do Not -
Plug your Headphone / External Speaker into the External
Antenna Jack (1/8") - It's easy to do sometimes and
strangly the Radio does not work to well.
- - - Oops - Been There - Done That ! :o)

Two -IFs- when using an External Antenna with a
'portable' AM / FM Shortwave Radio :

IF # 1 - When Using In-Door External Antenna with
a 'portable' AM / FM Shortwave Radio - A Ground
{Wire} connection may not be required - Although
connecting a Ground may help reduce the Noise
{ Try It and See }

IF # 2 - When Using Out-Side External Antenna with
a 'portable' AM / FM Shortwave Radio - A Ground
{Wire} connection is Required for Electrical Safety.
Usually a Ground connection will help reduce the
Noise when using and Out-Side External Antenna.
{ Do It and See }


hope this helps - iane ~ RHF
.
Shortwave Listener Antennas = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
SWL Antenna Group = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf
.
The Shortwave Listener's Blessing :
SWL BLESSING = http://tinyurl.com/s2bjm
May You Never Tire of Listening to the Radio and Always
have Strong Signals and Noise Free Reception ~ RHF {ibid}
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/9233
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Bob Miller wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:11:13 -0500, JDL wrote:

Bob Miller wrote in
:

On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 20:11:28 -0500, JDL wrote:

I live in a small town north of Youngstown. I have a Sangean 505 (has
sideband) also a 622 Sangean (just receivers, no transceivers -- yet).
The reception with the built in antenna isn't very good. I want to
erect some sort of wire loop antenna, but don't know what kind of
wire, what sort of grounding, length, etc. to use. I mainly want to
listen to shortwave broadcasts like VOA, BBC, but also private hams on
the sideband. I can buy someone dinner (and pay for all materials),
if they help me out erecting an antenna. I went to Radio Shack but
they were ignorant about shortwave stuff.

Down and dirty, get about 100 feet of insulated wire from the hardware
store, attach it to your radio's external antenna terminal, run the
wire out your window, string it around the yard as high as you can,
don't run it over or under any high-power electricity lines. This will
work pretty much as well as more complicated stuff.

bob
k5qwg


Thanks for the info.. Any particular guage of wire? Also, could I buy
some sort of connector to be able to plug the wire into the antenna jack
on the 505 Sangean? Or should I just use an alligator clip?

Thanks,
Justin


12, 14 or 16 guage would be the most common at the hardware store. Any
would work; the 12 guage is the biggest and most noticeable, if that's
a factor.

I'm not familiar with the connections on the back of a Sangean 505,
but if you took the radio to a place like Radio Shack they could
probably outfit you with a connector that fits; one that doesn't need
soldering would be easiest to work with.

Bob
k5qwg



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RHF June 10th 06 03:21 AM

External Antenna Input for most 'portable' AM / FM Shortwave Radios with 1/8" Mono Jack
 
David - Its The Though That Counts !
{ When The Words Seem To Fail You } ~ RHF


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