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Whatever. I can't imagine what motivates you to post this crap here.
You know you aren't going to sell us on IBOC, so why waste your time?

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David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...
Whatever. I can't imagine what motivates you to post this crap here.
You know you aren't going to sell us on IBOC, so why waste your time?

It realtes to DX as HD uses specturm. It also shows that there is a lot
of
sentiment for it in radio, and it is unlikely it will go away. There was
noting like this support for AM stereo...


But no one in this group cares. No one is interested in what you have
to say, so why bother?

Actually, some are. I have even received e-mails on the subject from readers
of the group.

If you are not interested in the subject, you are, like DXass, playing
ostrich. You may not like what I post, so ignore my postings. But HD is
going to be on most of the viable AMs in the US in a few years.

You're just a garden variety troll...with a very poor understanding of
both radio and marketing.

Get thee behind me, troll!

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David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', Univision Radio's paid shill and
pedantic prancer wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...
Whatever. I can't imagine what motivates you to post this crap here.
You know you aren't going to sell us on IBOC, so why waste your time?

It realtes to DX as HD uses specturm. It also shows that there is a lot
of
sentiment for it in radio, and it is unlikely it will go away. There was
noting like this support for AM stereo...


But no one in this group cares. No one is interested in what you have
to say, so why bother?

Actually, some are. I have even received e-mails on the subject from readers
of the group.

If you are not interested in the subject, you are, like DXass, playing
ostrich. You may not like what I post, so ignore my postings. But HD is
going to be on most of the viable AMs in the US in a few years.

And you are always playing hide the head up the ass, dip****!

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"Steve" wrote in message
ps.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...
Whatever. I can't imagine what motivates you to post this crap here.
You know you aren't going to sell us on IBOC, so why waste your
time?

It realtes to DX as HD uses specturm. It also shows that there is a
lot
of
sentiment for it in radio, and it is unlikely it will go away. There
was
noting like this support for AM stereo...


But no one in this group cares. No one is interested in what you have
to say, so why bother?

Actually, some are. I have even received e-mails on the subject from
readers
of the group.

If you are not interested in the subject, you are, like DXass, playing
ostrich. You may not like what I post, so ignore my postings. But HD is
going to be on most of the viable AMs in the US in a few years.

You're just a garden variety troll...with a very poor understanding of
both radio and marketing.

Huh? There are over 1000 HD stations on the ari, and commitments for more
than a thousand more.

Considering that only about 20% to 25% of AMs licensed are viable (cover
thier market, are not daytimers, do not have radically limited night
patterns, etc), nearly every one will be HD in about 24 to 36 months.

On FM, most viable top 100 market stations will be HD in a couple of years.
There are already over 100 HD-2 formats running.

I have a pretty good understanding of radio, and the credentials and C. V.
to back that statement. Who are you to say I do not?

Get thee behind me, troll!


Troll = truthsayer (in this case)

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', Univision Radio's paid
shill and
pedantic prancer wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...
Whatever. I can't imagine what motivates you to post this crap here.
You know you aren't going to sell us on IBOC, so why waste your
time?

It realtes to DX as HD uses specturm. It also shows that there is a
lot
of
sentiment for it in radio, and it is unlikely it will go away. There
was
noting like this support for AM stereo...


But no one in this group cares. No one is interested in what you have
to say, so why bother?

Actually, some are. I have even received e-mails on the subject from
readers
of the group.

If you are not interested in the subject, you are, like DXass, playing
ostrich. You may not like what I post, so ignore my postings. But HD is
going to be on most of the viable AMs in the US in a few years.

And you are always playing hide the head up the ass, dip****!

Say 100 times into the mirror.

Oh, look. It is a bigot masquerading as a bad DXer.

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', Univision Radio's paid
shill and
pedantic prancer wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...
Whatever. I can't imagine what motivates you to post this crap here.
You know you aren't going to sell us on IBOC, so why waste your
time?

It realtes to DX as HD uses specturm. It also shows that there is a
lot
of
sentiment for it in radio, and it is unlikely it will go away. There
was
noting like this support for AM stereo...


But no one in this group cares. No one is interested in what you have
to say, so why bother?

Actually, some are. I have even received e-mails on the subject from
readers
of the group.

If you are not interested in the subject, you are, like DXass, playing
ostrich. You may not like what I post, so ignore my postings. But HD is
going to be on most of the viable AMs in the US in a few years.

And you are always playing hide the head up the ass, dip****!

Say 100 times into the mirror.

Oh, look. It is a bigot masquerading as a bad DXer.

Bad DXer?

Nah, I'm simply not a fake Hispanic, nor a shill.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
ps.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...
Whatever. I can't imagine what motivates you to post this crap here.
You know you aren't going to sell us on IBOC, so why waste your
time?

It realtes to DX as HD uses specturm. It also shows that there is a
lot
of
sentiment for it in radio, and it is unlikely it will go away. There
was
noting like this support for AM stereo...


But no one in this group cares. No one is interested in what you have
to say, so why bother?

Actually, some are. I have even received e-mails on the subject from
readers
of the group.

If you are not interested in the subject, you are, like DXass, playing
ostrich. You may not like what I post, so ignore my postings. But HD is
going to be on most of the viable AMs in the US in a few years.

You're just a garden variety troll...with a very poor understanding of
both radio and marketing.

Huh? There are over 1000 HD stations on the ari, and commitments for more
than a thousand more.

Considering that only about 20% to 25% of AMs licensed are viable (cover
thier market, are not daytimers, do not have radically limited night
patterns, etc), nearly every one will be HD in about 24 to 36 months.

On FM, most viable top 100 market stations will be HD in a couple of years.
There are already over 100 HD-2 formats running.

I have a pretty good understanding of radio, and the credentials and C. V.
to back that statement. Who are you to say I do not?

Get thee behind me, troll!


Troll = truthsayer (in this case)

Yes, yes, this would all have been very interesting in 1986.

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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 04:47:14 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


On FM, most viable top 100 market stations will be HD in a couple of years.
There are already over 100 HD-2 formats running.

From what I've heard thus far I'm not impressed. Star 98.7 is running
a 250 song '80s playlist, KROCK (''Q-2'') is running heavily censored
Active Rock, maybe 350 songs . Sol Levine has the right idea. Kill
the AM. Right?

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"David" wrote in message
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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 04:47:14 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


On FM, most viable top 100 market stations will be HD in a couple of
years.
There are already over 100 HD-2 formats running.

From what I've heard thus far I'm not impressed. Star 98.7 is running
a 250 song '80s playlist, KROCK (''Q-2'') is running heavily censored
Active Rock, maybe 350 songs . Sol Levine has the right idea. Kill
the AM. Right?

Sol shut down 540 because he was legally required to to sell 1650, which he
got "in exchange" in the X-band procedures. He did not shut it down because
he wanted to; he did it because he got something better in exchange.

The current HD-2 channels are just starting, with programming that will
"expand" in phases as more receivers come to the market. Right now, most are
there to prove to the manufacturers that there will be a market.

The fact is, most listeners do not have more than a few hundred favorite
songs in any genre. Several recent surveys have shown that the average
number of songs on an iPod is around 300! When you go beyond that number, in
most formats or genres, you are playing songs that listeners don't really
like, which is hardly a gain.

Calling the limiting of a playlist to songs most people like, as opposed to
songs they don't like, is hardly "censorship." It is more like "common
sense."

The reason Baskin Robbins does not have 1000 flavors is that most people
like the same 8 or 10, and occasionally try one or another in an array of 30
to 40. Same with music.

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David Eduardo wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 04:47:14 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


On FM, most viable top 100 market stations will be HD in a couple of
years.
There are already over 100 HD-2 formats running.

From what I've heard thus far I'm not impressed. Star 98.7 is running
a 250 song '80s playlist, KROCK (''Q-2'') is running heavily censored
Active Rock, maybe 350 songs . Sol Levine has the right idea. Kill
the AM. Right?

Sol shut down 540 because he was legally required to to sell 1650, which he
got "in exchange" in the X-band procedures. He did not shut it down because
he wanted to; he did it because he got something better in exchange.

The current HD-2 channels are just starting, with programming that will
"expand" in phases as more receivers come to the market. Right now, most are
there to prove to the manufacturers that there will be a market.

The fact is, most listeners do not have more than a few hundred favorite
songs in any genre. Several recent surveys have shown that the average
number of songs on an iPod is around 300! When you go beyond that number, in
most formats or genres, you are playing songs that listeners don't really
like, which is hardly a gain.

Calling the limiting of a playlist to songs most people like, as opposed to
songs they don't like, is hardly "censorship." It is more like "common
sense."

The reason Baskin Robbins does not have 1000 flavors is that most people
like the same 8 or 10, and occasionally try one or another in an array of 30
to 40. Same with music.

Sorry. You're about twenty years too late.

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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 14:37:36 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


The fact is, most listeners do not have more than a few hundred favorite
songs in any genre. Several recent surveys have shown that the average
number of songs on an iPod is around 300! When you go beyond that number, in
most formats or genres, you are playing songs that listeners don't really
like, which is hardly a gain.

The way this was determined was by people trying out songs on focus
groups, but who picks the songs?

I guarantee you I could do a station with a thousand hits and it would
be #1.

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"David" wrote in message
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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 14:37:36 GMT, "David Eduardo"
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The fact is, most listeners do not have more than a few hundred favorite
songs in any genre. Several recent surveys have shown that the average
number of songs on an iPod is around 300! When you go beyond that number,
in
most formats or genres, you are playing songs that listeners don't really
like, which is hardly a gain.

The way this was determined was by people trying out songs on focus
groups, but who picks the songs?

I guarantee you I could do a station with a thousand hits and it would
be #1.

It has been tried.

1. There are not 1000 hits in most formats (an exception or two exist)
2. when tried, the station with fewer and better songs wins in inverse
proportion to library size.

I had a station come after my classic rocker a few years ago. We had under
500 songs. They did 1,800. We had a 20 share, they had a 1.8.

Years before, I tried doing double the cuts of a leading AC. I lost big.
Listeners gave the variety image to the other station because they played
better music.

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"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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The fact is, most listeners do not have more than a few hundred favorite
songs in any genre. Several recent surveys have shown that the average
number of songs on an iPod is around 300! When you go beyond that number,
in most formats or genres, you are playing songs that listeners don't
really like, which is hardly a gain.

Calling the limiting of a playlist to songs most people like, as opposed
to songs they don't like, is hardly "censorship." It is more like "common
sense."

The reason Baskin Robbins does not have 1000 flavors is that most people
like the same 8 or 10, and occasionally try one or another in an array of
30 to 40. Same with music.

Big difference between ice cream flavors and the number of songs people
like. I find it hard to believe that anyone would limit themselves to a
300 song playlist... that would (and does) drive me totally mad. My
personal library of mp3's (not CD's, I have thousands of those) has over
4500 tracks, all but a handful of which were Billboard Hot 100 or Top 100
Country, and more than 9/10 were Top 40. Some of those that were not in
the Hot 100 were released before Billboard charts existed, and were in the
top 30 of the charts of their day. ~97% of the library is tracks that were
popular during my lifetime from about 5 years old on.

I may be a little eccentric, but I can't believe that the average person
would like only ~7% of the music they hear over a lifetime.. or I doubt
radio would exist. Certainly a 'Top 40' chart would be superfluous..

Radio plays songs that are hits today.... most songs from the past were hits
but are not appealing for many reasons today.

When you actually play songs for real listeners, you find that there is a
very short list in any mass appeal format of songs that are currently
appealing.

The #1 station in San Antonio, which has been #1 for 5 years, played 57
songs for its first 6 months, and plays about 110 songs now.

The #1 music station in LA plays less than 300 songs, and it has been in the
top three or four stations for 16 years.

What listeners do, if they have a variety of tastes, is look for the best of
each genre on different stations. So if you like several genres, you hear
the 300 to 500 best on three different stations... a total of over 1000
songs. And you will find that mood determines genre choice at any one
moment... so you just can't play multiple genres on a single station in most
cases. The exceptions are very rare.

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Brenda Ann wrote:

Big difference between ice cream flavors and the number of songs people
like. I find it hard to believe that anyone would limit themselves to a
300
song playlist... t

You'd be surprised.

Some people buy an LP and only listen to one or two tracks. Some buy
45s and never listen to the flipside.

Some people go into a particular restaurant and ALWAYS order one
certain thing. Not everyone has very broad tastes in music.

Besides, consider the fact that most "normal" people may listen to the
radio for a couple hours a day, instead of having it constantly playing
like us radio geeks; they probably won't notice the repetition.

Good point. The average use of radio is just over 19 hours a week by the
average American. That is a little over 2 hours a day, so the repetition is
not going to be at all noticeable.

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David Eduardo wrote:
"Stephanie Weil" wrote in message
ups.com...

Brenda Ann wrote:

Big difference between ice cream flavors and the number of songs people
like. I find it hard to believe that anyone would limit themselves to a
300
song playlist... t

You'd be surprised.

Some people buy an LP and only listen to one or two tracks. Some buy
45s and never listen to the flipside.

Some people go into a particular restaurant and ALWAYS order one
certain thing. Not everyone has very broad tastes in music.

Besides, consider the fact that most "normal" people may listen to the
radio for a couple hours a day, instead of having it constantly playing
like us radio geeks; they probably won't notice the repetition.

Good point. The average use of radio is just over 19 hours a week by the
average American. That is a little over 2 hours a day, so the repetition is
not going to be at all noticeable.

I hear the same "hits" on KFOG all the time. It's the songs I can't
stand that I noticed the most. Who the hell wants to hear the Cars do
"best friend's girlfriend" in 2006. Hell, I don't want to hear any song
by the Cars. They are so last century...The same with Queen, Madness,
Yes, and similar bands that really don't stand the test of time.

I guess the point is my 300 songs won't be your 300 songs, but if they
play 3000 songs, at least my list will be covered.

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wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:
"Stephanie Weil" wrote in message
ups.com...

Brenda Ann wrote:

Big difference between ice cream flavors and the number of songs
people
like. I find it hard to believe that anyone would limit themselves to
a
300
song playlist... t

You'd be surprised.

Some people buy an LP and only listen to one or two tracks. Some buy
45s and never listen to the flipside.

Some people go into a particular restaurant and ALWAYS order one
certain thing. Not everyone has very broad tastes in music.

Besides, consider the fact that most "normal" people may listen to the
radio for a couple hours a day, instead of having it constantly playing
like us radio geeks; they probably won't notice the repetition.

Good point. The average use of radio is just over 19 hours a week by the
average American. That is a little over 2 hours a day, so the repetition
is
not going to be at all noticeable.

I hear the same "hits" on KFOG all the time. It's the songs I can't
stand that I noticed the most. Who the hell wants to hear the Cars do
"best friend's girlfriend" in 2006. Hell, I don't want to hear any song
by the Cars. They are so last century...The same with Queen, Madness,
Yes, and similar bands that really don't stand the test of time.

I guess the point is my 300 songs won't be your 300 songs, but if they
play 3000 songs, at least my list will be covered.

.... and everyone will hate it.

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David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo' and trying to hide the fact that
he's just white trash outta Cleveland wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', Univision Radio's paid
shill and
pedantic prancer wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...
Whatever. I can't imagine what motivates you to post this crap here.
You know you aren't going to sell us on IBOC, so why waste your
time?

It realtes to DX as HD uses specturm. It also shows that there is a
lot
of
sentiment for it in radio, and it is unlikely it will go away. There
was
noting like this support for AM stereo...


But no one in this group cares. No one is interested in what you have
to say, so why bother?

Actually, some are. I have even received e-mails on the subject from
readers
of the group.

If you are not interested in the subject, you are, like DXass, playing
ostrich. You may not like what I post, so ignore my postings. But HD is
going to be on most of the viable AMs in the US in a few years.

And you are always playing hide the head up the ass, dip****!

Say 100 times into the mirror.

Oh, look. It is a bigot masquerading as a bad DXer.

Bigot?

You're a member of La Raza and you've got the nerve to call me a bigot.

Shame on you, you worthless prancing prick.

You may now return to digitally manipulating yourself.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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In article ,
David Eduardo wrote:

Good point. The average use of radio is just over 19 hours a week by the
average American. That is a little over 2 hours a day, so the repetition is
not going to be at all noticeable.

But there's been some research that people only really want to listen
to a song 15 times or so, and the peak is at about the fifth hearing,
after that their enjoyment of it drops way off. (New Scientist,
about 5 years ago).

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...

Oh, look. It is a bigot masquerading as a bad DXer.

Bigot?

You're a member of La Raza and you've got the nerve to call me a bigot.

Being of "La Raza" means being a working class, blue collar Mexican. I am
not that.

I _am_ a member of the National Council of la Raza, which uses a totally
different meaning for the term.

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David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', so shunned by his family that he
was 'exported' from Cleveland wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

Oh, look. It is a bigot masquerading as a bad DXer.

Bigot?

You're a member of La Raza and you've got the nerve to call me a bigot.

Being of "La Raza" means being a working class, blue collar Mexican. I am
not that.

I _am_ a member of the National Council of la Raza, which uses a totally
different meaning for the term.

So, at least you admit to being a bigot.

Run along now, shill.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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"David" wrote in message
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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 03:41:47 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


The average use of radio is just over 19 hours a week by the
average American.
Maybe that's because radio sucks.

That is only about 7% below the level in 1952, prior to the lift of the TV
freeze. Did radio suck then, too?

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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:36:56 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 03:41:47 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


The average use of radio is just over 19 hours a week by the
average American.
Maybe that's because radio sucks.

That is only about 7% below the level in 1952, prior to the lift of the TV
freeze. Did radio suck then, too?


You're just full of numbers, aren't you?

In 1952 radio listening was Prime Time more than Drive Time.

I listen to radio all day long and most of the time at night. TV
makes your brain shrink.

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"David" wrote in message
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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 03:37:47 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



The #1 station in San Antonio, which has been #1 for 5 years, played 57
songs for its first 6 months, and plays about 110 songs now.

The #1 music station in LA plays less than 300 songs, and it has been in
the
top three or four stations for 16 years.

Are these Mexican stations? They don't count.

There are no Mexican stations in LA or San Antonio... Mexican stations are
in Mexico.

All stations in the ratings count.

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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 01:40:53 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



1. There are not 1000 hits in most formats (an exception or two exist)
2. when tried, the station with fewer and better songs wins in inverse
proportion to library size.

I had a station come after my classic rocker a few years ago. We had under
500 songs. They did 1,800. We had a 20 share, they had a 1.8.

Years before, I tried doing double the cuts of a leading AC. I lost big.
Listeners gave the variety image to the other station because they played
better music.


Adult Contemptuous is a brain dead format. It is aimed at Zombies.

I'd do a station for smart people, like KCRW, (not quite as
urban-esoteric), with commercials.

KCRW has a 1.2 share in LA, while the sum of the four AC stations is about
13 sharess.

I'm sure if you added commercials to KCRW, it could manage to work its way
down to a 0.98 or so.

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"David" wrote in message
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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:36:56 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 03:41:47 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


The average use of radio is just over 19 hours a week by the
average American.
Maybe that's because radio sucks.

That is only about 7% below the level in 1952, prior to the lift of the TV
freeze. Did radio suck then, too?


You're just full of numbers, aren't you?

In 1952 radio listening was Prime Time more than Drive Time.

So?

Actually, mid-days has as much listening as afternoon drive, so your
assumption is wrong.

And the usage in hours of radio in 1965 when Arbitron started was 21 hours.
In 1980 it was just undre 21 hours (20:45) and it has been in that level
ever since.
I listen to radio all day long and most of the time at night. TV
makes your brain shrink.

The average person listens just over 2.5 hours a day.

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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:58:27 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



KCRW has a 1.2 share in LA, while the sum of the four AC stations is about
13 sharess.

How would you know that? NCEs have their own book.

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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:04:42 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


The average person listens just over 2.5 hours a day.


The average person believes that Angels are real.

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"David" wrote in message
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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:58:27 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



KCRW has a 1.2 share in LA, while the sum of the four AC stations is about
13 sharess.

How would you know that? NCEs have their own book.

NCEs are measured by Arbitron, but the data is marketed to NCE's by a
separate entity. All the NCE numbers come from Arbitron, and all Arbitron
subscribers have them.

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David wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:04:42 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


The average person listens just over 2.5 hours a day.


The average person believes that Angels are real.

DaviD,

I will close my Eyes and Imagine you with Wings !

See Now Your An Angel :o) ~ RHF

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David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...

Oh, look. It is a bigot masquerading as a bad DXer.

Bigot?

You're a member of La Raza and you've got the nerve to call me a bigot.

Being of "La Raza" means being a working class, blue collar Mexican. I am
not that.


- I _am_ a member of the National Council of la Raza,
- which uses a totally different meaning for the term.

DE - And What Would That 'different' Meaning Be ? ? ? ~ RHF

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It's telling that he chooses to post his crap here rather than in
alt.radio.broadcasting or some obviously more suitable group. My guess
is that he's a troll, but he's definitely either trolling or selling.
Maybe both...who knows?

alt.radio.broadcasting is a pretty dead group. Most AM & FM radio discussion
is on www.radio-info.com.

However , the HD discussion came up here, and I think it important, and fun
most of the time, to see the impressions of HD from a different
perspective... most of which here seems to be, as natural, how it interferes
with the activities of DXers and not on its benefits to the radio industry.

HD article from Radio World
 

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...


It's telling that he chooses to post his crap here rather than in
alt.radio.broadcasting or some obviously more suitable group. My guess
is that he's a troll, but he's definitely either trolling or selling.
Maybe both...who knows?

alt.radio.broadcasting is a pretty dead group. Most AM & FM radio discussion
is on www.radio-info.com.

You might want to check alt.radio.broadcasting again. I see plenty of
posts there from this week. Maybe things are starting to hop over
there.


However , the HD discussion came up here, and I think it important, and fun
most of the time, to see the impressions of HD from a different
perspective... most of which here seems to be, as natural, how it interferes
with the activities of DXers and not on its benefits to the radio industry.

My guess is you saw it for what it is: an easy opportunity to generate
some kind (any kind) of controversy. That's what trolls do.

HD article from Radio World
 

Steve wrote:

dxAce wrote:
David Frackelton Gleason, putting on airs as 'Eduardo', the fake Hispanic since
c.2000 wrote:

"RHF" wrote in message
ups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...

Oh, look. It is a bigot masquerading as a bad DXer.

Bigot?

You're a member of La Raza and you've got the nerve to call me a bigot.

Being of "La Raza" means being a working class, blue collar Mexican. I am
not that.


- I _am_ a member of the National Council of la Raza,
- which uses a totally different meaning for the term.

DE - And What Would That 'different' Meaning Be ? ? ? ~ RHF

It is the meaning given by vasconcelos, the brilliant writer and philosopher
who said that a cosmic race ("raza cósmica") would emerge, in which there
were no color lines and all were members of one race.. the human race.

Was the writer so brilliant that capitalization of his name was unimportant?


"Raza" in Spanish means race as it doe sin English, but it aso means: breed
(as in horses, dogs, etc), brotherhood (as in commonality of a group),
people (as in "we the people") and even a crack in a piece of marble. Today,
among Mexican immigrants, "raza" means brotherhood primarily.

Most folks soon discover that La Raza is a very bigoted organization. Do a
little research.

Frankly I'm surprised that the would allow a non-Hispanic such as yourself to
join.

Did you join La Raza about the same time that you became a fake Hispanic
(c.2000) and began using the 'Eduardo' shtick?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

It's telling that he chooses to post his crap here rather than in
alt.radio.broadcasting or some obviously more suitable group. My guess
is that he's a troll, but he's definitely either trolling or selling.
Maybe both...who knows?

Butt kicked too many times in alt.radio.broadcasting?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

HD article from Radio World
 

"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...


It's telling that he chooses to post his crap here rather than in
alt.radio.broadcasting or some obviously more suitable group. My guess
is that he's a troll, but he's definitely either trolling or selling.
Maybe both...who knows?

alt.radio.broadcasting is a pretty dead group. Most AM & FM radio
discussion
is on www.radio-info.com.

You might want to check alt.radio.broadcasting again. I see plenty of
posts there from this week. Maybe things are starting to hop over
there.

Three posts average per day, including a librarian form Boston, is hardly
hopping.

My guess is you saw it for what it is: an easy opportunity to generate
some kind (any kind) of controversy. That's what trolls do.

I think it is an interesting opportunity to discuss where there are
differing opinions.

HD article from Radio World
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...



Butt kicked too many times in alt.radio.broadcasting?


There has never been much traffic on that ng. It is all on
www.radio-info.com

HD article from Radio World
 

In article .com,
"RHF" wrote:

Steve wrote:
dxAce wrote:
David Frackelton Gleason, putting on airs as 'Eduardo', the fake
Hispanic since c.2000 wrote:

"RHF" wrote in message
ups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...

Oh, look. It is a bigot masquerading as a bad DXer.

Bigot?

You're a member of La Raza and you've got the nerve to
call me a bigot.

Being of "La Raza" means being a working class, blue collar
Mexican. I am not that.


- I _am_ a member of the National Council of la Raza, - which
uses a totally different meaning for the term.

DE - And What Would That 'different' Meaning Be ? ? ? ~ RHF

It is the meaning given by vasconcelos, the brilliant writer
and philosopher who said that a cosmic race ("raza cósmica")
would emerge, in which there were no color lines and all were
members of one race.. the human race.

Was the writer so brilliant that capitalization of his name was
unimportant?


"Raza" in Spanish means race as it doe sin English, but it aso
means: breed (as in horses, dogs, etc), brotherhood (as in
commonality of a group), people (as in "we the people") and
even a crack in a piece of marble. Today, among Mexican
immigrants, "raza" means brotherhood primarily.

Most folks soon discover that La Raza is a very bigoted
organization. Do a little research.

Frankly I'm surprised that the would allow a non-Hispanic such as
yourself to join.

Did you join La Raza about the same time that you became a fake
Hispanic (c.2000) and began using the 'Eduardo' shtick?

dxAce Michigan USA

It's telling that he chooses to post his crap here rather than in
alt.radio.broadcasting or some obviously more suitable group. My
guess is that he's a troll, but he's definitely either trolling or
selling. Maybe both...who knows?

Steve

For "DE" posting here or anywhere allows him to refine his skills and
arguments and exposes him to 'other' view points that he may not see
in a professional setting. { Doing Research In-the-Rough }

Will It Play in Peoria ? -and- Can It Become a Hit On Broadway ? [
Broad Appeal -vice- Critical Acclaim ]

and that's the way i see it ~ RHF

Well it's not working.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Modern AM "HD" {IBOC} Digital Radio - AM Dxer's are on the Extreme and Technology has Marginalized Us !
 

In article .com,
"RHF" wrote:

AM Dxer's are on the Extreme and Technology has Marginalized Us.
We are in the Twilight Zone of . . . Modern AM "HD" {IBOC} Digital
Radio somewhere between Six Sigma and Infinity [.] ~ RHF


AM dxers on the xtreme ??

When my neighbours telly is on, I can't dig further into the noise .. ;-)

When there is noise on your radio, does your body feel the electricity
around ??

what would be extreme ?? sit on an island, away from electricity and
even digital camera's too (put your camera close to your receiver and
listen to the noise ..)

--
een appeltje te schillen met http://applefaulty.be
http://users.fulladsl.be/spb13810/bwnl.htm
Breng je iMac G5 terug (ik wil binnen 2 jaar geen defecte 2de hands Apple kopen)
http://www.apple.com/nl/support/imac...ensionprogram/

Modern AM "HD" {IBOC} Digital Radio - AM Dxer's are on the Extremeand Technology has Marginalized Us !
 

switcher wrote:
In article .com,
"RHF" wrote:

AM Dxer's are on the Extreme and Technology has Marginalized Us.
We are in the Twilight Zone of . . . Modern AM "HD" {IBOC} Digital
Radio somewhere between Six Sigma and Infinity [.] ~ RHF


AM dxers on the xtreme ??

When my neighbours telly is on, I can't dig further into the noise .. ;-)

When there is noise on your radio, does your body feel the electricity
around ??

what would be extreme ?? sit on an island, away from electricity and
even digital camera's too (put your camera close to your receiver and
listen to the noise ..)



We had one member here, some years ago, who took his Drake SW-2 out
of town, found a stretch of Interstate highway with a steel guard rail,
and connected to that for what became an approximation of a Beverage
that was, in one case, about 12 miles long. He reported some
interesting results

Modern AM "HD" {IBOC} Digital Radio - AM Dxer's are on the ExtremeandTechnology has Marginalized Us !
 

dxAce wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

switcher wrote:
In article .com,
"RHF" wrote:

AM Dxer's are on the Extreme and Technology has Marginalized Us.
We are in the Twilight Zone of . . . Modern AM "HD" {IBOC} Digital
Radio somewhere between Six Sigma and Infinity [.] ~ RHF

AM dxers on the xtreme ??

When my neighbours telly is on, I can't dig further into the noise .. ;-)

When there is noise on your radio, does your body feel the electricity
around ??

what would be extreme ?? sit on an island, away from electricity and
even digital camera's too (put your camera close to your receiver and
listen to the noise ..)

We had one member here, some years ago, who took his Drake SW-2 out
of town, found a stretch of Interstate highway with a steel guard rail,
and connected to that for what became an approximation of a Beverage
that was, in one case, about 12 miles long. He reported some
interesting results

Overkill? Wonder what the beamwidth would be on something like that length vs.
frequency would be?


That's a good question. He did report some occasional noise issues.
But some nice MW and SW captures.


It certainly was a unique innovation.




dxAce
Michigan
USA

Modern AM "HD" {IBOC} Digital Radio - AM Dxer's are on the Extreme and Technology has Marginalized Us !
 

D Peter Maus wrote:
switcher wrote:
In article .com,
"RHF" wrote:

AM Dxer's are on the Extreme and Technology has Marginalized Us.
We are in the Twilight Zone of . . . Modern AM "HD" {IBOC} Digital
Radio somewhere between Six Sigma and Infinity [.] ~ RHF


AM dxers on the xtreme ??

When my neighbours telly is on, I can't dig further into the noise .. ;-)

When there is noise on your radio, does your body feel the electricity
around ??

what would be extreme ?? sit on an island, away from electricity and
even digital camera's too (put your camera close to your receiver and
listen to the noise ..)



We had one member here, some years ago, who took his Drake SW-2 out
of town, found a stretch of Interstate highway with a steel guard rail,
and connected to that for what became an approximation of a Beverage
that was, in one case, about 12 miles long. He reported some
interesting results


I bet the guard rail didn't remain very straight across an expanse of
roughly twelve miles (though you could find relatively straight guard
rails of that length in some places).