Any suggestions between the two? I know the Sony is a bit more
expensive and the Kaito-Degen has a tuning wheel but I think the Kaito
might have more problems with quality control coming out of the
factory. I've read a number of reviews and the two appear to be
nearly equal in reception. Thanks...

soinie wrote:
Any suggestions between the two? I know the Sony is a bit more
expensive and the Kaito-Degen has a tuning wheel but I think the Kaito
might have more problems with quality control coming out of the
factory. I've read a number of reviews and the two appear to be
nearly equal in reception. Thanks...
Equal performance...but...

The tuning knob on my DE1103 is acting up, and I'm apparently not
alone. Tuning in one direction may result in: no change; tuning in
the opposite direction; jumping random khz in one direction or another.
I suspect this is the result of being assembled in a less than
perfectly clean environment. The firmware used to control memories is
seriously flawed in its design, but it works. It will catch as many
stations as a Sony, but I can no longer recommend the DE1103.

John S. wrote:
soinie wrote:
Any suggestions between the two? I know the Sony is a bit more
expensive and the Kaito-Degen has a tuning wheel but I think the Kaito
might have more problems with quality control
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I have had my Sony 7600 GR for ten years with no problems. Its main
advantage in these times of weak and fading reception is its
synchronous detector. This helps reduce the worst effects of selective
fading and can turn a bad signal into one that is comfortable to listen
to. Over the years, mine has been knocked around a bit and I had to
replace the antenna whip. This wasn't the radio's fault but Sony parts
are expensive.

soinie a écrit :
Any suggestions between the two? I know the Sony is a bit more
expensive and the Kaito-Degen has a tuning wheel but I think the Kaito
might have more problems with quality control coming out of the
factory. I've read a number of reviews and the two appear to be
nearly equal in reception. Thanks...

Beside what is said in previous posts, I can recommand (if the price is
OK for you) the Sangean 909 : tuning knob, alpha tags and memory pages,
excellent with an external antenna, and good enough off the whip.

Perhaps you can also try the Kaito KA1103 instead of the Degen. Since
the Kaito version is meant to be exported, the quality controls mights
be stronger than the ones for the Chinese market.

I have a KA31 antenna (Kaito) and a TG33 antenna (Degen), and the Degen
seems to be of not-so-good quality compared to the Kaito.

Just my take...

Charly

Don't bother with Degen/Kaito radios. They will likely break and they have
no resale value whatsoever.

The 7600GR has the famous Sony Synch Detector which is offered in no other
radio in its price class.

"soinie" wrote in message
...
Any suggestions between the two? I know the Sony is a bit more
expensive and the Kaito-Degen has a tuning wheel but I think the Kaito
might have more problems with quality control coming out of the
factory. I've read a number of reviews and the two appear to be
nearly equal in reception. Thanks...

Der Fuehrer Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wrote:
Don't bother with Degen/Kaito radios. They will likely break and they have
no resale value whatsoever.

Since when is resale price of a low-end consumer product a
consideration. I don't buy coffee makers, clock radios or small
portable radios with the idea of reselling them. I buy them to be
used.



The 7600GR has the famous Sony Synch Detector which is offered in no other
radio in its price class.


The synch detector at best offers modest signal improvement in a
limited of situations.

The radio itself is made to a higher standard however.


"soinie" wrote in message
...
Any suggestions between the two? I know the Sony is a bit more
expensive and the Kaito-Degen has a tuning wheel but I think the Kaito
might have more problems with quality control coming out of the
factory. I've read a number of reviews and the two appear to be
nearly equal in reception. Thanks...

Five years have passed since the 9/11 terrorist attacks in 2001. However,
the fear in my heart has kept on growing: Chinese people will be dragged
into another catastrophe, which is far more devastating than the 9/11
attacks in the U.S.

In 2001, several doctoral and master's degree candidates at Qinghua
University and the Chinese Academy of Sciences were arrested and imprisoned
at the First Municipal Detention Center in Beijing because of certain
speeches they gave. I am one of them. On September 7 (2001), several of us
were transferred to the Beijing Municipal Detention Center in the Haidian
District.

Most of the prisoners in the Haidian District detention center were rogues
or drug addicts. The police began to intimidate us immediately upon our
arrival-the prisoners were ordered to undergo a strip search. There, the
guards represented the Chinese communist regime. They were the "dictators"
of that place, their words became law.


September 11th in the Detention Center
Usually, it was quiet in the detention center because all of the prisoners
were asked to "sit on a board" for self-reflection. This "Sitting on a
board" was a torture treatment. The prisoners were forced to sit on a large
hard board with both of their arms embracing their thighs. Their upper body
had to remain upright and no movement or speech was allowed. As time passed,
one's posterior region would begin to feel a sharp, intense pain. Inside the
crowded cell of more than twenty prisoners, one could barely occupy a one
meter square on average.. A surveillance camera was installed in the cell to
monitor every movement. There was also a small, shabby television, which
served as a "brain-washing" device-to watch the so-called "educational
films" made by the Chinese communist regime.

In the early morning of September 12th, 2001, the quietness of the hallway
in the detention center was interrupted by the sporadic ringing of
telephones, footsteps, and the guards' wild laughter. The atmosphere of the
entire detention center was very jubilant. What could have possibly occurred
here to be so joyful? Everyone was puzzled. I sensed a major event had
occurred. But could we, the humblest level in the detention center, have the
chance to know about it? Were the guards waiting for further instruction
from their superiors?

Before long, a guard unlocked the cell and the Boss of the cell was summoned
to the office. A while later, a burst of boisterous laughter could be heard
from across the hallway. After the sound of rushing footsteps, the guards
and the Boss returned with huge smiles. I was wondering what could have
happened to make them so happy!

The guard unlocked the cell for the Boss. As soon as he entered the cell,
the Boss yelled, "Damn it! Everyone, sit straight! The U.S. has been hit!
Ha, Ha, Ha!" He then turned the television to the news coverage about the
suicidal terrorist attacks earlier on that day. The video of airliners
smashing into the twin towers of New York's World Trade Center was played
repeatedly. The collapse of the Twin Towers aroused excitement among the
prisoners. They hailed loudly.

Usually, any noise was strictly forbidden in the cell. Anyone who violated
this regulation would take the risk of being beaten fiercely or shackled
with steel chains by the guards and forced to crawl along the hallway like a
dog. However, this prohibition was completely set aside for the moment.
Prisoners were allowed to hail the "defeat" of the U.S. The thousands of
lives lost with the collapse of the Twin Towers were treated as if they were
ants.

Even though China's political leader conveyed his condolences to the U.S.
president publicly, I felt in his heart, he was actually laughing. It also
didn't seem to matter whether or not there were any Chinese on the list of
victims or missing persons.

I endured three 9/11 anniversaries in the prison. On the last two, prisoners
were still allowed to watch the news broadcast. In addition to refreshing
the prisoners with the video taken on September 11th, 2001, the news
coverage also included how the U.S. military has accidentally injured
citizens during the War on Terrorism and the Iraqi War and how discontented
people have been with the two wars. As a result, the prisoners condemned
Americans for creating the troubles that caused their suffering.

My Fervent Brother

I was released from detention in March 2004. I returned to my hometown. My
younger brother had tears in his eyes when we first met. He had joined the
military when he was 18. By 28, he had become a CCP Army official. He
retired from military service soon after my imprisonment.

Unexpectedly, within a few days of my return home, my brother and I had a
fierce argument. It was during the time of Taiwan's 2004 Presidential
election. Everyday the Chinese media had broadcast news on the possible
imminent invasion of Taiwan.

My brother was watching TV, rubbing his palms together. He was eager for a
fight. He said, if the Mainland attacks Taiwan, he would return to the
military and "erase Taiwan". In his mind, the war was like a game. The 20
million Taiwanese lives were unimportant to him. The presence of many of our
own relatives in Taiwan was irrelevant. Later when President Chen Shui Bian
was shot, my brother gloated over his misfortune.

I could not believe my brother had behaved like that. He was like an alien
to me as I listened to his words. Many years of Chinese Communist Party
(CCP) military service had filled his mind with both blood and hatred.

After my brother and I had argued, an older relative said to him, "Why do
you have to go to Taiwan? Chairman Jiang [1] is in good health. He plans to
continue in his position as Chairman of the Central Military Commission. His
two sons are strong. If there is to be an invasion of Taiwan, Chairman
Jiang's sons should set a patriotic example for everyone and request to
serve at the front."

Note: 1. Chairman Jiang*, Jiang Zemin, the ex-chairman of the Central
Military Commission and also the leader of the Chinese Communist regime.

9/11 After I Was Released

September 11, 2004, three years after the start of my detention, was my
first 9/11 anniversary experienced as a free person. Although I could move
about my hometown, I had no job and was still under close observation by the
CCP. I used my time at home to search the Internet. I surfed major BBS
(Bulletin Board System) run by the government and found the following
statements:

Proposing all the Chinese military follow the martyrs of the 911 attack.

Send highest respect to those heroes who completed the 911 mission!

Send our respect to all those who are fighting American's invasion and
overthrow Americans. Chinese are standing together with you! Defeat America!
Defeat American troops! The world should join together and press America
into the toilet.

Heros' blood will not bleed in vain, you will motivate us moving forward!

China, I Cry for You

The written history of China extends over 5000 years. The Chinese people
have always been proud of their cultural heritage and traditions. In the
past people exhibited kindness toward each other and valued peaceful
relations with their neighbors.

But in today's China, the people's thoughts and actions are filled with
hatred and violence. The doctrines of Confucius and his disciple Mencius,
promoting benevolence, righteousness, high moral standards for living,
wisdom, faithfulness and compassion, have been completely discarded.

Since the CCP came to power in 1949, the Chinese people have been
indoctrinated by a political philosophy fueled by the constant threat of
hatred and violence directed at a particular target group. Under such a
political system it is not possible for harmony to exist within society.

After 57 years of CCP rule, the Chinese people have lost their cultural
heritage, their moral values and any sympathy toward the plight of others
undergoing persecution.

Corruption is everywhere. The government no longer serves the needs of its
citizens. Organized crime syndicates dominate many regions. Under this
situation, human rights and their legal defense are more and more on
people's minds. The CCP exerts its illegal rule over a political system that
is about to implode.

To remain in power, the CCP has shifted the people's focus away from the
very real domestic problems that threaten to destroy society. In the names
of nationalism and patriotism, the CCP has redirected the people's focus by
inciting hatred toward Taidu (Taiwan independents) and Americans.

Major General Zhu Chenghu, Dean of the Defense Affairs Institute for China's
National Defense University, said, "If the Americans fire their missiles
toward Chinese territory, we will respond with nuclear weapons. We are
prepared to sacrifice all of our cities east of Xi'an. Of course the
Americans must realize that hundreds of American cities will also be
destroyed by Chinese missiles." His words have won the applause of many
students. Their fervor is very similar to that of Japan's youth before World
War II.

If the CCP cannot resolve China's internal problems in the near future,
history tells us that the CCP will move in one of two directions. One
possible direction would be to target another sector of society and place
the blame for China's internal problems on this group as it continues to do
so against Falun Gong.

Another direction might be to redirect public opinion away from existing
internal problems and toward another country resulting in war.

The CCP has never stopped killing Chinese citizens since its first days of
power in 1949. The "Three Anti- Campaign," the "Five Anti- Campaign," the
"Four Cleanups Movement," the Cultural Revolution, the Massacre at Tiananmen
Square and the continuing persecution of Falun Gong are all examples of the
CCP's evil nature.

Whether it is the killing of innocent Chinese by the CCP or the start of a
war against another country, the catastrophe happening upon the Chinese
people is ten times, a hundred times, a thousand times worse than the 9/11
attack on America.

I can smell the blood. People of China, when will you be free of the CCP?
China, I cry for you!

http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-9-16/46045.html

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"John S." wrote:

Der Fuehrer Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wrote:
Don't bother with Degen/Kaito radios. They will likely break and
they have no resale value whatsoever.

Since when is resale price of a low-end consumer product a
consideration. I don't buy coffee makers, clock radios or small
portable radios with the idea of reselling them. I buy them to be
used.



The 7600GR has the famous Sony Synch Detector which is offered in
no other radio in its price class.


The synch detector at best offers modest signal improvement in a
limited of situations.

Snip

I use it more often than not. Many signals have periodic fading.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Charly wrote:

I have a KA31 antenna (Kaito) and a TG33 antenna (Degen), and the Degen
seems to be of not-so-good quality compared to the Kaito.

Interesting. Can you get a little more specific? Are the materials
different? Is the workmanship more sloppy?

I often wondered whether there was a difference between the domestic
and export Chinese products.

--
Col. I.P. Yurin
Commissariat of Internal Security

Stakhanovite
Order of Lenin (1937)
Hero of Socialist Labor (1939)