Icom R75 with all the Kiwa mods, including the complete attenuation removal
is roughly equal to Drake R8B in both SW AND MW performance.

True or false?

Please note that this is not an attempt to start a flamefest. Ideally I'd
like to have an opinion from folks who run or have run both machines side by
side.

Cheers,

MvBB

Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt wrote:

Icom R75 with all the Kiwa mods, including the complete attenuation removal
is roughly equal to Drake R8B in both SW AND MW performance.

True or false?

Please note that this is not an attempt to start a flamefest. Ideally I'd
like to have an opinion from folks who run or have run both machines side by
side.

Cheers,

MvBB

Roughly true but it still tips the balance in favor of the R8B if you
are a program listener more than a SSB/utility listener.


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I have both (my R-75 is unmodified). They seem about equal, with
maybe a slight tip to the ICOM for UTE and tough signal DX. The Drake
has the more listener-friendly features for plain old program
listening.

Bottom line: If you can only afford 1 radio and listen to SWBC and MW
a lot, get the Drake. If you lean toward UTE, Digital Modes and tough
signal DX get the ICOM.

On Mon, 31 May 2004 03:34:24 -0400, longwave
wrote:

Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt wrote:

Icom R75 with all the Kiwa mods, including the complete attenuation removal
is roughly equal to Drake R8B in both SW AND MW performance.

True or false?

Please note that this is not an attempt to start a flamefest. Ideally I'd
like to have an opinion from folks who run or have run both machines side by
side.

Cheers,

MvBB

Roughly true but it still tips the balance in favor of the R8B if you
are a program listener more than a SSB/utility listener.


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Michael wrote:

I have used both radios. My primary radio is an R-75 with all the kiwa
mods and an external speaker. I also have the DSP unit installed. I prefer
the R-75 for DX'ing. Mostly because I dx most weak signals using ecss
tuning method in ssb and I like using the R-75 much better as a ssb radio.

Can you give us some examples of the weak signal stations you receive on
the R-75 with ECSS? What kind of antenna do you use for these DX
stations?

Thanks


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On Mon, 31 May 2004 03:46:46 GMT, "Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt"
wrote:

Icom R75 with all the Kiwa mods, including the complete attenuation removal
is roughly equal to Drake R8B in both SW AND MW performance.

True or false?

Please note that this is not an attempt to start a flamefest. Ideally I'd
like to have an opinion from folks who run or have run both machines side by
side.

Cheers,

MvBB

There is a reason the Drake R8B has near legend in status, and no
amount of tinkering with a lesser receiver will make it equal. However
the difference are not things that most people are every likely to
hear, in the lab they can be measured, they can rarely be heard.

= = = dxAce wrote in message
= = = ...
Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt wrote:

Icom R75 with all the Kiwa mods, including the complete attenuation removal
is roughly equal to Drake R8B in both SW AND MW performance.

True or false?

False.

I have used both radios and have found the R8B to be superior in all respects.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B
"I swear by, not at, Drake receivers"©

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

DX Ace [N8KDV],

Having 'said' your Say.

What would you say was the 'Best Value for the Money' the
Drake R8B or the Icom IC-R75 for a Shortwave Listener (SWL)
moving up from a 'portable' AM/FM/Shortwave Radio to a Desk
Top LW/MW/Shortwave Receiver.

[ ] Drake R8B

[ ] Icom IC-R75 (R-75) with Kiwa Mods.

One or the 'other' Only Please ~ RHF

..

Subject: Icom R75 vs. R8B
From: (RHF)
Date: 6/1/2004 8:16 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

= = = dxAce wrote in message
= = = ...
Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt wrote:

Icom R75 with all the Kiwa mods, including the complete attenuation
removal
is roughly equal to Drake R8B in both SW AND MW performance.

True or false?

False.

I have used both radios and have found the R8B to be superior in all
respects.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B
"I swear by, not at, Drake receivers"©

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

DX Ace [N8KDV],

Having 'said' your Say.

What would you say was the 'Best Value for the Money' the
Drake R8B or the Icom IC-R75 for a Shortwave Listener (SWL)
moving up from a 'portable' AM/FM/Shortwave Radio to a Desk
Top LW/MW/Shortwave Receiver.

[ ] Drake R8B

[XX ] Icom IC-R75 (R-75) with Kiwa Mods.

One or the 'other' Only Please ~ RHF


Better value, not better receiver.

Les

In article ,
ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote:

From: dxAce

I have used both radios and have found the R8B to be superior in all
respects.


Could you detail the amount of time you've spent operating an R75? I
suggest you check your previous statements in the archives before
being accused of lying, yet again.

You don't have any radios lying, Trolling creep.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Michael wrote:

"starman" wrote in message

Can you give us some examples of the weak signal stations you receive on
the R-75 with ECSS? What kind of antenna do you use for these DX
stations?

Thanks


DX'ing weak signals have just as much to do with "conditions" as they do
with the power and distance of the transmitted signal. It may be very easy
to get say...RNZI from my location during times of the day and year when
conditions are good for it, and impossible to pick it up during other times.

I've used ECSS to identify weak carriers too but I was wondering what
you would consider a good DX catch. What have you heard lately that you
would classify as weak DX, given all the "conditions"?


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matt weber wrote:

On Mon, 31 May 2004 03:46:46 GMT, "Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt"
wrote:

Icom R75 with all the Kiwa mods, including the complete attenuation removal
is roughly equal to Drake R8B in both SW AND MW performance.

True or false?

Please note that this is not an attempt to start a flamefest. Ideally I'd
like to have an opinion from folks who run or have run both machines side by
side.

Cheers,

MvBB

There is a reason the Drake R8B has near legend in status, and no
amount of tinkering with a lesser receiver will make it equal. However
the difference are not things that most people are every likely to
hear, in the lab they can be measured, they can rarely be heard.

Keep telling yourself that as you operate a 'lesser' receiver!