594 JAPAN JOAK Tokyo NHK1, Oct 5 1332 - Heard with a possible newscast by
serious-sounding Japanese announcer. Good signal. (Atkins-WA)

747 JAPAN JOIB Hokkaido NHK2, Oct 5 1338 - English lessons hosted male and
female announcers in Japanese, with cheery phrases like "Your career is
going nowhere; you should get out of public relations." Good to very good
signal during peaks, and parallel to 693 JOAB Tokyo. (Atkins-WA)

693 JAPAN JOAB Tokyo NHK2, Oct 5 1335 - Good signal with male & female
Japanese announcers presenting English lessons, parallel 747 JOIB Hokkaido.
(Atkins-WA)

963 CHINA China Radio International, Oct 5 1345 - Fair signal of Chinese
music and male announcer in Russian. Presumed; CRI is usually the one with
Russian language on 963. (Atkins-WA)

972 SOUTH KOREA HLCA (KBS Liberty 1), Oct 5 1355 - Female and male announcer
in Korean at tune-in. Signal peaking nicely at top of hour with more talk,
short orchestral music piece, announcements (ID?) by female, and 3+1 time
pips at 1400. Into talk or news items by male announcer as signal quickly
faded. I was able to identify 972 as HLCA by paralleling it to 1134 kHz just
before 1400. A short MP3 recording of this catch can be heard at:
http://www.guyatkins.com/files/HLCA_972khz.mp3 It's a good example of how
trans-Pacific MW stations can fade in and out over a short length of time.
It's interesting that HLCA's location in Pyongtaek (Dangjin) is on the
midwestern coast of South Korea, separated from the Pacific by 100 miles of
land and a mountain range. Despite the transmitter's location and my own
inland QTH, the signal peaked quite well at 1400 (15 minutes before local
sunrise). (Atkins-WA)

1134 SOUTH KOREA KBS Liberty 1, Oct 5 1355 - Good to very good level, and
parallel 972 with Korean talk and orchestral music. (Atkins-WA)

1287 JAPAN JOHR Hokkaido HBC, Oct 5 1405 - Fair signal of male Japanese
announcer with what sounded like a newscast. (Atkins-WA)

1296 JAPAN JOTR Matsue NHK1, Oct 5 1413 - Tentative. Weak signal of what
sounded like an interview or panel discussion between two Japanese males.
The audio was pretty much wiped out after 1415, as local Seattle/Tacoma
stations went full power at sunrise. (Atkins-WA)

Guy Atkins
Puyallup, WA USA
Modified RA6790GM & R75
Kiwa MAP / ERGO / DSP-59+
450 & 700 ft. Beverage Antennas

At least they weren't off-topic politico-rantings... just DX.

--Guy

if you didn't hear ID's, wouldn't these logs be tentative or list
loggings ?

you list two stations at one time (1355), how can you be sure what you
got ?

when I first got into DX'ing, I was told by the DX publications that
this is not acceptable reporting procedure.


"4nradio" wrote in message news:n8G8d.193199$D%.96749@attbi_s51...
594 JAPAN JOAK Tokyo NHK1, Oct 5 1332 - Heard with a possible newscast by
serious-sounding Japanese announcer. Good signal. (Atkins-WA)

747 JAPAN JOIB Hokkaido NHK2, Oct 5 1338 - English lessons hosted male and
female announcers in Japanese, with cheery phrases like "Your career is
going nowhere; you should get out of public relations." Good to very good
signal during peaks, and parallel to 693 JOAB Tokyo. (Atkins-WA)

693 JAPAN JOAB Tokyo NHK2, Oct 5 1335 - Good signal with male & female
Japanese announcers presenting English lessons, parallel 747 JOIB Hokkaido.
(Atkins-WA)

963 CHINA China Radio International, Oct 5 1345 - Fair signal of Chinese
music and male announcer in Russian. Presumed; CRI is usually the one with
Russian language on 963. (Atkins-WA)

972 SOUTH KOREA HLCA (KBS Liberty 1), Oct 5 1355 - Female and male announcer
in Korean at tune-in. Signal peaking nicely at top of hour with more talk,
short orchestral music piece, announcements (ID?) by female, and 3+1 time
pips at 1400. Into talk or news items by male announcer as signal quickly
faded. I was able to identify 972 as HLCA by paralleling it to 1134 kHz just
before 1400. A short MP3 recording of this catch can be heard at:
http://www.guyatkins.com/files/HLCA_972khz.mp3 It's a good example of how
trans-Pacific MW stations can fade in and out over a short length of time.
It's interesting that HLCA's location in Pyongtaek (Dangjin) is on the
midwestern coast of South Korea, separated from the Pacific by 100 miles of
land and a mountain range. Despite the transmitter's location and my own
inland QTH, the signal peaked quite well at 1400 (15 minutes before local
sunrise). (Atkins-WA)

1134 SOUTH KOREA KBS Liberty 1, Oct 5 1355 - Good to very good level, and
parallel 972 with Korean talk and orchestral music. (Atkins-WA)

1287 JAPAN JOHR Hokkaido HBC, Oct 5 1405 - Fair signal of male Japanese
announcer with what sounded like a newscast. (Atkins-WA)

1296 JAPAN JOTR Matsue NHK1, Oct 5 1413 - Tentative. Weak signal of what
sounded like an interview or panel discussion between two Japanese males.
The audio was pretty much wiped out after 1415, as local Seattle/Tacoma
stations went full power at sunrise. (Atkins-WA)

Guy Atkins
Puyallup, WA USA
Modified RA6790GM & R75
Kiwa MAP / ERGO / DSP-59+
450 & 700 ft. Beverage Antennas

the captain wrote:

if you didn't hear ID's, wouldn't these logs be tentative or list
loggings ?

you list two stations at one time (1355), how can you be sure what you
got ?

He said it was in parallel with 1134...

Read it again.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

the captain wrote:
if you didn't hear ID's, wouldn't these logs be tentative or list
loggings ?
you list two stations at one time (1355), how can you be sure what you
got ?

He said it was in parallel with 1134...

Read it again.

True, I did have 972 in parallel with 1134, therefore the two logs with the
same times. However, Captain could have rightly asked about my other logs...
how do I know I had JOIB Hokkaido on 747, for instance? Well, I'm basing
these loggings on the following:

--14 years of regular DXing of trans-Pacific mediumwave signals, including
3-4 coastal DXpeditions per year, and knowledge of TP DX propagation
characteristics
--I've heard each of these Japanese stations many times before, and I'm
familiar with their pattern and style
--Over the years I've ID'd them through parallels and occasional NHK network
and/or local IDs
--I use a very reliable source of TP MW information, the Pacific Asian Log,
and watch for station changes and updates through forums and groups like the
MWOZ Yahoogroup, IRCA, HCDX, etc.
--I share & receive current station tips with experienced foreign MW DXers
like Nick Hall-Patch, John Bryant, Patrick Martin, Bruce Portzer
(author/compiler of the Pacific Asian Log) etc.

Many 9-kHz frequencies for the Asia-Pacific region only have one Japanese
station on the air, and no other stations around the region with Japanese
language programming. Of course, it's *possible* for a new station to come
along which fits the pattern, language, music, and other clues of the usual
occupant of the frequency, and even the "experts" can be fooled. The
text-book approach is to never claim a station is heard unless you hear a
definite ID. However, common sense and experience serves well for 99.9% of
the situations.

If you briefly tune across 5975 kHz in the early North American evenings and
hear rugby match scores read by a Brit-accented announcer, do you doubt that
you've heard the BBC relay from Antigua? They've been a regular on that
frequency and timeslot for so many years they practically own 5975. The
major mediumwave outlets in Japan, China, Australia, etc. rarely change
frequencies, and I think it's similar with the Europeans-- that's why you'll
see so many of Mark Connelly's European/Latin/African MW loggings list a
definite callsign and/or station name, but no actual ID reported. He knows
the regular occupants of each channel "like the back of his hand", as the
saying goes.

So... this is my reasoning for reporting mediumwave stations. If I *do* have
any doubts about what I'm hearing, I have no problem calling a catch
"presumed", "probable", "tentative", or "unidentified". The same
investigative reasoning goes for my tropical band loggings, also.

BTW, Hokkaido is the region (island) of the Japanese station on 747; I
should have written Sapporo which is the studio/transmitter location.

Guy Atkins
Puyallup, WA USA