In a response to a CB antenna question on the rec.outdoors.rv-travel
someone posted a link to

http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs/CBs_%26_RVs.htm

Talk about snake oil salesmen.

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:33:25 -0700, Wes Stewart
wrote:

In a response to a CB antenna question on the rec.outdoors.rv-travel
someone posted a link to

http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs/CBs_%26_RVs.htm

Talk about snake oil salesmen.

(from the website)

If you find that you are getting unwanted noise (buzzing, popping,
whining), run your radio power leads straight to one of the vehicles
batteries. This will by-pass all of the other circuits that could
cause unwanted interference. Enough said on radios.

Well, it starts out well, at least. Certainly everyone here that has
hooked up a rig in the car found that direct connection to the battery
solved all their problems.

I think someone forgot to tell Ford.



--
73 for now
Buck
N4PGW

On 14/06/2005 12:11 PM, Bill Turner wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:33:25 -0700, Wes Stewart
wrote:


In a response to a CB antenna question on the rec.outdoors.rv-travel
someone posted a link to

http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs/CBs_%26_RVs.htm

Talk about snake oil salesmen.


_________________________________________________

That website is so appallingly full of crap I don't know where to begin.

Hey, can someone take the time to do a brief critique of said article?
It might be good to for interested parties to verify their knowledge.

For example, I note:

- The notion that "CB antennas" require a ground plane. My
understanding is that some antenna designs include one or more
counterpoise elements, but that this is different than a ground plane.

- Suggesting that the ground plane is necessary to pick up ground waves.

- Suggesting the ground plane is part of the feedline. If the
groundplane is a counterpoise (as suggested in the first paragraph) why
is the feedline part of the antenna? Is this some sort of special
feedline they are referring to?

- Frequency changes due to changes in the electrical length of the
feedline. Again, unless the feedline really is part of the antenna,
isn't it the idea to have a theoretical perfect feedline can be nearly
any length? That is, from the point of view of the radio equipment, the
feedline has infinite impedance? (I'm fuzzy on this one, so remind me
gently if I'm misleading myself.)

- The discussion of SWR is so wrong it has caused me to forget what it
really is. Sorry.

- The section on tuning somehow conflates the location of the antenna
with it's electrical length.

I invite everyone to set me straight, and in the process offer a good
rebuttal of this article.

clvrmnky:

That is a head of a pin... I envision fairies to be dancing upon it
soon...

.... just to agree on "semantics" and "proper technical terms" should
take longer than the attention span I have...

Warmest regards,
John
"clvrmnky" wrote in message
...
On 14/06/2005 12:11 PM, Bill Turner wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:33:25 -0700, Wes Stewart
wrote:


In a response to a CB antenna question on the rec.outdoors.rv-travel
someone posted a link to

http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs/CBs_%26_RVs.htm

Talk about snake oil salesmen.


_________________________________________________

That website is so appallingly full of crap I don't know where to
begin.

Hey, can someone take the time to do a brief critique of said article?
It might be good to for interested parties to verify their knowledge.

For example, I note:

- The notion that "CB antennas" require a ground plane. My
understanding is that some antenna designs include one or more
counterpoise elements, but that this is different than a ground plane.

- Suggesting that the ground plane is necessary to pick up ground
waves.

- Suggesting the ground plane is part of the feedline. If the
groundplane is a counterpoise (as suggested in the first paragraph)
why
is the feedline part of the antenna? Is this some sort of special
feedline they are referring to?

- Frequency changes due to changes in the electrical length of the
feedline. Again, unless the feedline really is part of the antenna,
isn't it the idea to have a theoretical perfect feedline can be nearly
any length? That is, from the point of view of the radio equipment,
the
feedline has infinite impedance? (I'm fuzzy on this one, so remind me
gently if I'm misleading myself.)

- The discussion of SWR is so wrong it has caused me to forget what it
really is. Sorry.

- The section on tuning somehow conflates the location of the antenna
with it's electrical length.

I invite everyone to set me straight, and in the process offer a good
rebuttal of this article.

In a response to a CB antenna question on the rec.outdoors.rv-travel
someone posted a link to

http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs/CBs_%26_RVs.htm

Talk about snake oil salesmen.


________________________________________________ _


Does this site end with--- "To start a QSO, RUB 2 of our "FIRESTICK"
antennas together- the distance desired is reached by the more you
rub your antennas together" (???) Kickapoo Joy Juice! NN7K

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:33:25 -0700, Wes Stewart
wrote:

In a response to a CB antenna question on the rec.outdoors.rv-travel
someone posted a link to

http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs/CBs_%26_RVs.htm

Talk about snake oil salesmen.

Wow, I didn't know that aluminium doesn't make a good ground plane! I
quess all of those aluminium chassis are just no good! I especially
liked the SWR explanation. I'm going to use it when next I teach an
Extra class.

R

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 02:15:00 GMT, Russ wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:33:25 -0700, Wes Stewart
wrote:

In a response to a CB antenna question on the rec.outdoors.rv-travel
someone posted a link to

http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs/CBs_%26_RVs.htm

Talk about snake oil salesmen.

Wow, I didn't know that aluminium doesn't make a good ground plane! I
quess all of those aluminium chassis are just no good! I especially
liked the SWR explanation. I'm going to use it when next I teach an
Extra class.

R


Does anyone have any 'ground plane' coax? I can't seem to find any
for my antenna. The manufacturer didn't include the matching coax.


--
73 for now
Buck
N4PGW

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 02:13:03 -0400, Buck wrote:

Does anyone have any 'ground plane' coax? I can't seem to find any
for my antenna. The manufacturer didn't include the matching coax.

Sure, just connect your coax to the antenna without a choke balun and
you've got it!

Danny, K6MHE

On 14/06/2005 5:20 PM, John Smith wrote:
clvrmnky:

That is a head of a pin... I envision fairies to be dancing upon it
soon...

... just to agree on "semantics" and "proper technical terms" should
take longer than the attention span I have...

Er, did you mean to reply to this? I'm afraid I don't get your meaning.
Some might say that your semiotics is obscuring your semantics. Not
that I would, of course.