Travis Jordan wrote:
Slow Code wrote:

1: No more


Amateur radio is in decline and you think putting Morse code back in as
a requirement would help?

Bwhahahahaha.
----------------
Statistics courtesy of George McCouch, K3UD.

Total active individual licenses as of May 14, 2000:
Novice - 49,329
Tech/+ - 334,254
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750

Total all classes - 674,792

Total active individual licenses as of June 30, 2006:
Novice - 24,877 (-49.57%) (-24,456)
Tech/+ - 320,242 (-4.20%) (-14,012)
General - 132,758 (+17.82%) (+20,081)
Advanced - 71,753 (-28.13%) (-28,029)
Extra - 108,184 (+37.38%) (+29,434)

Total All Classes: 657,814 (-1,405 since the March 2006 reporting
period)

Total all classes (5/14/00) - 674,792
Total all Classes (4/21/03) - 687,860
Total all classes (9/6/04 ) - 674,788
Total all classes (6/30/06) - 657,814

Total loss of 16,978 since 5/14/2000 (Was 674,792)
Total loss of 16,974 since 9/6/2004 (Was 674,788)
Total Loss of 30,066 since 4/2003 (all time high of 687,860)

We lost:
842 Novice
1,088 General
1,157 Advanced
3,087 Total

We Gained:
1,258 Tech/+
424 Extra
1,682 Total

This is an overall 1,405 decline since the March reporting period
and averages 467 per month for the quarter.

For the months March April and May the new licenses issued
break down as follows.

6,999 Tech/+ 89.3% **
627 General 8.0%
217 Extra 2.7%

Total new licenses issues during the period - 7,849

** These numbers come from the very interesting and comprehensive
website of Joe Speroni, AH0A http://www.ah0a.org

Numbers of US population and the number of hams at the start of each
decade from 1930.

Year Population # Hams Growth Rate
1930 123,202,624 19,000
1940 132,164,569 56,000 194%
1950 151,325,798 87,000 55%
1960 179,323,175 230,000 164%
1970 203,211,926 263,918 15%
1980 226,545,805 393,353 49%
1990 248,709,873 502,677 28%
2000 281,421,906 682,240 36%
2006 657,814 -3.6 %

The 2006 number was as of June 30, 2006.


I just read the latest QST. In "How's DX?" the author notes that ham
radio "used to be" the prime communication from and to Haiti. But now,
with cell phones, satellite, etc. it is no longer as important.

This is the real world. Morse is NOT the issue.

Relevance (is that the correct spelling?) is the issue.

Ham radio really WANTS to help in emergencies. This is very
commendable. I think, though, we've been sidelined.

We're still there "when all else fails". Morale of those involved
remains high, from what I hear / read.

However, in a typical emergency, ham radio is not nearly as primary as
it used to be. It's OK. We can still contribute.

Communications have been "universalized"...anyone can use a cell phone.
It's natural that communications-specialists see their need waning.

It's OK.

As a hobby, ham radio has a LOT to offer. When I mention to others that
I have re-entered ham radio, many people ask "Is that still around?"

Man, of COURSE, it's still around.

If you discuss ham radio with others, do you mention contacting the
Space Shuttle? ham radio satellites? weak signal work in VHF/UHF?
Sporadic E? Tropospheric Ducting? DX???

How about EME?

You don't have to be doing these things yourself, you just need to let
everyone know what the ENTIRE hobby is about.

Morse, data, SSB, FM all have a place.

Ham radio is NOT dying. Hams are. Share our hobby, in ALL its forms,
generously with those you know. The rest will take care of itself, for
better or worse.

John
AB8O

W H O T H E F U C K C A R E S ! ! ! !

THIS IS ****EN SCANNER NEWSGROUP, NOT TALK ABOUT ISSUES ABOUT AMATEUR
RADIO. WHO **** CARES!.

IF YOU ****EN IDIOTS WANT TO TALK ABOUT AMATEUR RADIO THEN GO YOUR
LITTLE ****EN NEWSGROUP AND DISCUSS IT THEIR NOT HERE!




jawod wrote:
Travis Jordan wrote:

Slow Code wrote:

1: No more



Amateur radio is in decline and you think putting Morse code back in as
a requirement would help?

Bwhahahahaha.
----------------
Statistics courtesy of George McCouch, K3UD.

Total active individual licenses as of May 14, 2000:
Novice - 49,329
Tech/+ - 334,254
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750

Total all classes - 674,792

Total active individual licenses as of June 30, 2006:
Novice - 24,877 (-49.57%) (-24,456)
Tech/+ - 320,242 (-4.20%) (-14,012)
General - 132,758 (+17.82%) (+20,081)
Advanced - 71,753 (-28.13%) (-28,029)
Extra - 108,184 (+37.38%) (+29,434)

Total All Classes: 657,814 (-1,405 since the March 2006 reporting
period)

Total all classes (5/14/00) - 674,792
Total all Classes (4/21/03) - 687,860
Total all classes (9/6/04 ) - 674,788
Total all classes (6/30/06) - 657,814

Total loss of 16,978 since 5/14/2000 (Was 674,792)
Total loss of 16,974 since 9/6/2004 (Was 674,788)
Total Loss of 30,066 since 4/2003 (all time high of 687,860)

We lost:
842 Novice
1,088 General
1,157 Advanced
3,087 Total

We Gained:
1,258 Tech/+
424 Extra
1,682 Total

This is an overall 1,405 decline since the March reporting period
and averages 467 per month for the quarter.

For the months March April and May the new licenses issued
break down as follows.

6,999 Tech/+ 89.3% **
627 General 8.0%
217 Extra 2.7%

Total new licenses issues during the period - 7,849

** These numbers come from the very interesting and comprehensive
website of Joe Speroni, AH0A http://www.ah0a.org

Numbers of US population and the number of hams at the start of each
decade from 1930.

Year Population # Hams Growth Rate
1930 123,202,624 19,000
1940 132,164,569 56,000 194%
1950 151,325,798 87,000 55%
1960 179,323,175 230,000 164%
1970 203,211,926 263,918 15%
1980 226,545,805 393,353 49%
1990 248,709,873 502,677 28%
2000 281,421,906 682,240 36%
2006 657,814 -3.6 %

The 2006 number was as of June 30, 2006.


I just read the latest QST. In "How's DX?" the author notes that ham
radio "used to be" the prime communication from and to Haiti. But now,
with cell phones, satellite, etc. it is no longer as important.

This is the real world. Morse is NOT the issue.

Relevance (is that the correct spelling?) is the issue.

Ham radio really WANTS to help in emergencies. This is very
commendable. I think, though, we've been sidelined.

We're still there "when all else fails". Morale of those involved
remains high, from what I hear / read.

However, in a typical emergency, ham radio is not nearly as primary as
it used to be. It's OK. We can still contribute.

Communications have been "universalized"...anyone can use a cell phone.
It's natural that communications-specialists see their need waning.

It's OK.

As a hobby, ham radio has a LOT to offer. When I mention to others that
I have re-entered ham radio, many people ask "Is that still around?"

Man, of COURSE, it's still around.

If you discuss ham radio with others, do you mention contacting the
Space Shuttle? ham radio satellites? weak signal work in VHF/UHF?
Sporadic E? Tropospheric Ducting? DX???

How about EME?

You don't have to be doing these things yourself, you just need to let
everyone know what the ENTIRE hobby is about.

Morse, data, SSB, FM all have a place.

Ham radio is NOT dying. Hams are. Share our hobby, in ALL its forms,
generously with those you know. The rest will take care of itself, for
better or worse.

John
AB8O


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Scanners?? Cool movie...
rb

"wîthhËld fØr rËåsØñs Øf ñåtîØñål SËÇürîty" wrote in
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THIS IS ****EN SCANNER NEWSGROUP, NOT TALK ABOUT ISSUES ABOUT AMATEUR
RADIO. WHO **** CARES!.

IF YOU ****EN IDIOTS WANT TO TALK ABOUT AMATEUR RADIO THEN GO YOUR LITTLE
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jawod wrote:
Travis Jordan wrote:

Slow Code wrote:

1: No more



Amateur radio is in decline and you think putting Morse code back in as
a requirement would help?

Bwhahahahaha.
----------------
Statistics courtesy of George McCouch, K3UD.

Total active individual licenses as of May 14, 2000:
Novice - 49,329
Tech/+ - 334,254
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750

Total all classes - 674,792

Total active individual licenses as of June 30, 2006:
Novice - 24,877 (-49.57%) (-24,456)
Tech/+ - 320,242 (-4.20%) (-14,012)
General - 132,758 (+17.82%) (+20,081)
Advanced - 71,753 (-28.13%) (-28,029)
Extra - 108,184 (+37.38%) (+29,434)

Total All Classes: 657,814 (-1,405 since the March 2006 reporting
period)

Total all classes (5/14/00) - 674,792
Total all Classes (4/21/03) - 687,860
Total all classes (9/6/04 ) - 674,788
Total all classes (6/30/06) - 657,814

Total loss of 16,978 since 5/14/2000 (Was 674,792)
Total loss of 16,974 since 9/6/2004 (Was 674,788)
Total Loss of 30,066 since 4/2003 (all time high of 687,860)

We lost:
842 Novice
1,088 General
1,157 Advanced
3,087 Total

We Gained:
1,258 Tech/+
424 Extra
1,682 Total

This is an overall 1,405 decline since the March reporting period
and averages 467 per month for the quarter.

For the months March April and May the new licenses issued
break down as follows.

6,999 Tech/+ 89.3% **
627 General 8.0%
217 Extra 2.7%

Total new licenses issues during the period - 7,849

** These numbers come from the very interesting and comprehensive
website of Joe Speroni, AH0A http://www.ah0a.org

Numbers of US population and the number of hams at the start of each
decade from 1930.

Year Population # Hams Growth Rate
1930 123,202,624 19,000
1940 132,164,569 56,000 194%
1950 151,325,798 87,000 55%
1960 179,323,175 230,000 164%
1970 203,211,926 263,918 15%
1980 226,545,805 393,353 49%
1990 248,709,873 502,677 28%
2000 281,421,906 682,240 36%
2006 657,814 -3.6 %

The 2006 number was as of June 30, 2006.


I just read the latest QST. In "How's DX?" the author notes that ham
radio "used to be" the prime communication from and to Haiti. But now,
with cell phones, satellite, etc. it is no longer as important.

This is the real world. Morse is NOT the issue.

Relevance (is that the correct spelling?) is the issue.

Ham radio really WANTS to help in emergencies. This is very commendable.
I think, though, we've been sidelined.

We're still there "when all else fails". Morale of those involved
remains high, from what I hear / read.

However, in a typical emergency, ham radio is not nearly as primary as it
used to be. It's OK. We can still contribute.

Communications have been "universalized"...anyone can use a cell phone.
It's natural that communications-specialists see their need waning.

It's OK.

As a hobby, ham radio has a LOT to offer. When I mention to others that
I have re-entered ham radio, many people ask "Is that still around?"

Man, of COURSE, it's still around.

If you discuss ham radio with others, do you mention contacting the Space
Shuttle? ham radio satellites? weak signal work in VHF/UHF? Sporadic E?
Tropospheric Ducting? DX???

How about EME?

You don't have to be doing these things yourself, you just need to let
everyone know what the ENTIRE hobby is about.

Morse, data, SSB, FM all have a place.

Ham radio is NOT dying. Hams are. Share our hobby, in ALL its forms,
generously with those you know. The rest will take care of itself, for
better or worse.

John
AB8O


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jawod wrote:
Travis Jordan wrote:
Slow Code wrote:



I just read the latest QST. In "How's DX?" the author notes that ham
radio "used to be" the prime communication from and to Haiti. But now,
with cell phones, satellite, etc. it is no longer as important.

This is the real world. Morse is NOT the issue.
it is till it is gone

Relevance (is that the correct spelling?) is the issue.

Ham radio really WANTS to help in emergencies. This is very
commendable. I think, though, we've been sidelined.

We're still there "when all else fails". Morale of those involved
remains high, from what I hear / read.

However, in a typical emergency, ham radio is not nearly as primary as
it used to be. It's OK. We can still contribute.
gee wonder if Robeson will flame for that statement
John
AB8O

Man, of COURSE, it's still around.

If you discuss ham radio with others, do you mention contacting the Space
Shuttle? ham radio satellites? weak signal work in VHF/UHF? Sporadic E?
Tropospheric Ducting? DX???

How about EME?

You don't have to be doing these things yourself, you just need to let
everyone know what the ENTIRE hobby is about.


Huh? You mean there is something besides CW?? Man, don't you know CW saves
lives?!?!?

Listen, Weak signals are for CW work on HF while boats are burning.
Contacting the space shuttle is just pointless unless you're correcting
their keplerian elements for the return flight path or asking if they really
drink Tang, Sporadic E [aka EMF bombing] is really ****ing off the
Condensation Entities that periodically enter the atmosphere to scan for
intelligent life, and tropospheric ducting is a lie. I happen to have the
control codes to several am-sats and I randomly change the freqs all the
time, and you suckers fall for it without fail....
And DX? Hello....? Internet....?
:-)
rb

Woody wrote:
Man, of COURSE, it's still around.

If you discuss ham radio with others, do you mention contacting the Space
Shuttle? ham radio satellites? weak signal work in VHF/UHF? Sporadic E?
Tropospheric Ducting? DX???

How about EME?

You don't have to be doing these things yourself, you just need to let
everyone know what the ENTIRE hobby is about.



Huh? You mean there is something besides CW?? Man, don't you know CW saves
lives?!?!?

Listen, Weak signals are for CW work on HF while boats are burning.
Contacting the space shuttle is just pointless unless you're correcting
their keplerian elements for the return flight path or asking if they really
drink Tang, Sporadic E [aka EMF bombing] is really ****ing off the
Condensation Entities that periodically enter the atmosphere to scan for
intelligent life, and tropospheric ducting is a lie. I happen to have the
control codes to several am-sats and I randomly change the freqs all the
time, and you suckers fall for it without fail....
And DX? Hello....? Internet....?
:-)
rb


Interesting name, Woody. Yet, it seems to fit.

THIS IS ****EN SCANNER NEWSGROUP, NOT TALK ABOUT ISSUES ABOUT AMATEUR
RADIO. WHO **** CARES!.

IF YOU ****EN IDIOTS WANT TO TALK ABOUT AMATEUR RADIO THEN GO YOUR
LITTLE
****EN NEWSGROUP AND DISCUSS IT THEIR NOT HERE!

jawod wrote:

Woody wrote:

Man, of COURSE, it's still around.

If you discuss ham radio with others, do you mention contacting the
Space Shuttle? ham radio satellites? weak signal work in VHF/UHF?
Sporadic E? Tropospheric Ducting? DX???

How about EME?

You don't have to be doing these things yourself, you just need to
let everyone know what the ENTIRE hobby is about.



Huh? You mean there is something besides CW?? Man, don't you know CW
saves lives?!?!?

Listen, Weak signals are for CW work on HF while boats are burning.
Contacting the space shuttle is just pointless unless you're
correcting their keplerian elements for the return flight path or
asking if they really drink Tang, Sporadic E [aka EMF bombing] is
really ****ing off the Condensation Entities that periodically enter
the atmosphere to scan for intelligent life, and tropospheric ducting
is a lie. I happen to have the control codes to several am-sats and I
randomly change the freqs all the time, and you suckers fall for it
without fail....
And DX? Hello....? Internet....?
:-)
rb


Interesting name, Woody. Yet, it seems to fit.


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On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:47:07 -0400, wîthhËld fØr rËåsØñs Øf ñåtîØñål
SËÇürîty wrote:

THIS IS ****EN SCANNER NEWSGROUP, NOT TALK ABOUT ISSUES ABOUT AMATEUR
RADIO. WHO **** CARES!.

IF YOU ****EN IDIOTS WANT TO TALK ABOUT AMATEUR RADIO THEN GO YOUR
LITTLE
****EN NEWSGROUP AND DISCUSS IT THEIR NOT HERE!
++++++++++++++++
I am reading your enlightened reply in the rec.radio.amateur.equipment
group. Why are you here???

X-rated wrote:

I am reading your enlightened reply in the rec.radio.amateur.equipment
group. Why are you here???

becuase the ISP will not retrain the trollss anymore which means the
troll crosspost everything every where

this set is relitively mild and at least is confined to radio NGs

On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:47:07 -0400, wîthhËld fØr rËåsØñs Øf ñåtîØñål
SËÇürîty wrote:

THIS IS ****EN SCANNER NEWSGROUP, NOT TALK ABOUT ISSUES ABOUT AMATEUR
RADIO. WHO **** CARES!.

No one. plonk