Another rightwing anti-teacher dork.
Blame yourself.
Wake up America.
Be happy.
Play and have fun.
Dont just chase the dollar.
Hams are cheap and boring.

"Ed G." wrote in message
. ..


It's all part of the "dumbing down of America" that has been going on
for the last 20-30 years.

Seems to me it started back farther than that.... probably in the late
60's when the "new math" was being pushed by pointy headed liberal
educators.



Ed WB6SAT

"Ed G." wrote in message
. ..


It's all part of the "dumbing down of America" that has been going on
for the last 20-30 years.

Seems to me it started back farther than that.... probably in the late
60's when the "new math" was being pushed by pointy headed liberal
educators.



Ed WB6SAT


And don't forget the "whole word" approach that they tried instead of
phonics for teaching reading. Many people today are suffering from marginal
literacy due to that poor concept.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

http://www.nocode.org/



"Ed G." wrote in message
. ..


It's all part of the "dumbing down of America" that has been going on
for the last 20-30 years.

Seems to me it started back farther than that.... probably in the late
60's when the "new math" was being pushed by pointy headed liberal
educators.



Ed WB6SAT

Exactly what I was thinking Dan.

Dan/W4NTI

"Dan Mattingly N0FQN" wrote in message
...
Just what we need. Lazy belly aching people who want something for
nothing.
They'll get the HF bands and not appreciate what they have becuase they
didn't have to work for it. Just like everything else in this country.
Make
it conveient or I'll complain and bitch about it and find someway to MAKE
you change it for me. I deeply appreciate my PRIVILEGES on HF because I
worked hard to get them.
I guess the next step is 4 watts RMS and 12 watts PEP and Channelize the
bands and of course NO TESTING!!!! God forbid we should ask them to take a
test..

Dan N0FQN

"Mark Russo" wrote in message
...
One of these below will get you there...

Seems to me that they should bump up the current General class to
Advanced class.
This way people who worked hard to get to General will not be locked in
with the no code
folks. That seems fair?.


http://www.remote.arrl.org/news/stor.../01/19/1/?nc=1


Click he ARRLWeb: ARRL to Propose New Entry-Level License, Code-Free
HF Access

stop thinking
it is almost a done deal
wahhhhhhh

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
ink.net...
Exactly what I was thinking Dan.

Dan/W4NTI

"Dan Mattingly N0FQN" wrote in message
...
Just what we need. Lazy belly aching people who want something for
nothing.
They'll get the HF bands and not appreciate what they have becuase they
didn't have to work for it. Just like everything else in this country.
Make
it conveient or I'll complain and bitch about it and find someway to
MAKE
you change it for me. I deeply appreciate my PRIVILEGES on HF because I
worked hard to get them.
I guess the next step is 4 watts RMS and 12 watts PEP and Channelize the
bands and of course NO TESTING!!!! God forbid we should ask them to take
a
test..

Dan N0FQN

"Mark Russo" wrote in message
...
One of these below will get you there...

Seems to me that they should bump up the current General class to
Advanced class.
This way people who worked hard to get to General will not be locked
in
with the no code
folks. That seems fair?.


http://www.remote.arrl.org/news/stor.../01/19/1/?nc=1


Click he ARRLWeb: ARRL to Propose New Entry-Level License,
Code-Free
HF Access

poor baby
here is towel


"Dan Mattingly N0FQN" wrote in message
...
Just what we need. Lazy belly aching people who want something for
nothing.
They'll get the HF bands and not appreciate what they have becuase they
didn't have to work for it. Just like everything else in this country.
Make
it conveient or I'll complain and bitch about it and find someway to MAKE
you change it for me. I deeply appreciate my PRIVILEGES on HF because I
worked hard to get them.
I guess the next step is 4 watts RMS and 12 watts PEP and Channelize the
bands and of course NO TESTING!!!! God forbid we should ask them to take a
test..

Dan N0FQN

"Mark Russo" wrote in message
...
One of these below will get you there...

Seems to me that they should bump up the current General class to
Advanced class.
This way people who worked hard to get to General will not be locked in
with the no code
folks. That seems fair?.


http://www.remote.arrl.org/news/stor.../01/19/1/?nc=1


Click he ARRLWeb: ARRL to Propose New Entry-Level License, Code-Free
HF Access

hey ergo, it is "poor baby, here IS a towel.
Are you from the USA??
Are you a ham?
Go back to CB you keyclown.
Nothing nice to say?
shut up!

ergo wrote:

poor baby
here is towel

"Dan Mattingly N0FQN" wrote in message
...
Just what we need. Lazy belly aching people who want something for
nothing.
They'll get the HF bands and not appreciate what they have becuase they
didn't have to work for it. Just like everything else in this country.
Make
it conveient or I'll complain and bitch about it and find someway to MAKE
you change it for me. I deeply appreciate my PRIVILEGES on HF because I
worked hard to get them.
I guess the next step is 4 watts RMS and 12 watts PEP and Channelize the
bands and of course NO TESTING!!!! God forbid we should ask them to take a
test..

Dan N0FQN

"Mark Russo" wrote in message
...
One of these below will get you there...

Seems to me that they should bump up the current General class to
Advanced class.
This way people who worked hard to get to General will not be locked in
with the no code
folks. That seems fair?.


http://www.remote.arrl.org/news/stor.../01/19/1/?nc=1


Click he ARRLWeb: ARRL to Propose New Entry-Level License, Code-Free
HF Access

Ham 12 years
ACS 2nd leader
46 states on 6meter
worked mir SS 100's of stations on sats
control opp 7 repeaters
donate much time and equiptment to fire stations
etc
nothing nice to say?
you STFU
more hams=more emergency people


"Steve Zodiac" wrote in message
...
hey ergo, it is "poor baby, here IS a towel.
Are you from the USA??
Are you a ham?
Go back to CB you keyclown.
Nothing nice to say?
shut up!

ergo wrote:

poor baby
here is towel

"Dan Mattingly N0FQN" wrote in message
...
Just what we need. Lazy belly aching people who want something for
nothing.
They'll get the HF bands and not appreciate what they have becuase
they
didn't have to work for it. Just like everything else in this country.
Make
it conveient or I'll complain and bitch about it and find someway to
MAKE
you change it for me. I deeply appreciate my PRIVILEGES on HF because
I
worked hard to get them.
I guess the next step is 4 watts RMS and 12 watts PEP and Channelize
the
bands and of course NO TESTING!!!! God forbid we should ask them to
take a
test..

Dan N0FQN

"Mark Russo" wrote in message
...
One of these below will get you there...

Seems to me that they should bump up the current General class to
Advanced class.
This way people who worked hard to get to General will not be locked
in
with the no code
folks. That seems fair?.


http://www.remote.arrl.org/news/stor.../01/19/1/?nc=1


Click he ARRLWeb: ARRL to Propose New Entry-Level License,
Code-Free
HF Access

nice list, ergo

and, BTW, I am NOT from the USA, I am a HAM since 1990, CALLSIGNS OE8SOQ and
DD9XX,

what are you guys going to do, if you hear a station from lets say VK, GB,
DL, HB9, and many others, among them rare DX countries? First thing to ask
wether or not they did pass the CW Test? and then not continuing the QSO??
Would this be polite? hamlike? How would your reaction be if some DX ham
offends you like that?
The proposed changes in the ARRL paper saying, that your FCC will grant
lifetime credit for CW all previous licenced novices and techs. All techs
will have general privileges. Will you stop working them on the bands? Will
you resist to give them the point for ten-ten, WAS or whatever they are
chasing? Will you first go to buckmaster or QRZ and look up the callsign to
make shure not to talk to a NON-CW TESTED? This looks like to me as it was
down the years in your country when no white one would have shook hands with
a black man, or driven on the same bus. It is just RASISM. Will you let the
best hobby in the world go down the sewer pipe just for beeing too proud of
taking the CW test some time ago?

I think, that there is no question about the historical weight of CW for
radio comunications worldwide. Nowadays it has no more commercial nor
official impact. It seems to me, that it is the same as knowing how to write
on one of those old TRIUMPH Typwriters or handle one of those old TTY
monsters whith the punched paperstrip. It is a great handycraft to be able
to do this, but is is no more neccesary to learn how to write on one of
those old machines. Ask someone who grew up with the PC keybord to do this -
what will happen?

In my homecountry, Austria, they dropped the requirements for CW test end of
last year. BUT they stated in that law, that CW test can be required by the
applicants in future, as long as the authority can supply CW-EXAMINERS. BTW,
the former nocode Test was the same as for HF, just no CW. So every
Austrian licencee is tested like an EXTRA in the US, exept the CW. And this
is the same in all of the EUROPEAN countries.

Just my half EURO worth

Helmut
OE8SOQ

"ergo" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:0mlPb.93901$5V2.278472@attbi_s53...
Ham 12 years
ACS 2nd leader
46 states on 6meter
worked mir SS 100's of stations on sats
control opp 7 repeaters
donate much time and equiptment to fire stations
etc
nothing nice to say?
you STFU
what is an STFU??
more hams=more emergency people


"Steve Zodiac" wrote in message
...
hey ergo, it is "poor baby, here IS a towel.
Are you from the USA??
Are you a ham?
Go back to CB you keyclown.
Nothing nice to say?
shut up!

ergo wrote:

poor baby
here is towel

"Dan Mattingly N0FQN" wrote in message
...
Just what we need. Lazy belly aching people who want something for
nothing.
They'll get the HF bands and not appreciate what they have becuase
they
didn't have to work for it. Just like everything else in this
country.
Make
it conveient or I'll complain and bitch about it and find someway to
MAKE
you change it for me. I deeply appreciate my PRIVILEGES on HF
because
I
worked hard to get them.
I guess the next step is 4 watts RMS and 12 watts PEP and Channelize
the
bands and of course NO TESTING!!!! God forbid we should ask them to
take a
test..

Dan N0FQN

"Mark Russo" wrote in message
...
One of these below will get you there...

Seems to me that they should bump up the current General class to
Advanced class.
This way people who worked hard to get to General will not be
locked
in
with the no code
folks. That seems fair?.


http://www.remote.arrl.org/news/stor.../01/19/1/?nc=1


Click he ARRLWeb: ARRL to Propose New Entry-Level License,
Code-Free
HF Access

if you are talking about me, you took what I said all wrong.
I too, appreciate MY PRIVILEGES!!
I don't want to be on the same level with the no code folks.
Although there is nothing wrong with them.
I did work a bit harder to get where I am and folks in my position would feel
cheated.


Dan Mattingly N0FQN wrote:

Just what we need. Lazy belly aching people who want something for nothing.
They'll get the HF bands and not appreciate what they have becuase they
didn't have to work for it. Just like everything else in this country. Make
it conveient or I'll complain and bitch about it and find someway to MAKE
you change it for me. I deeply appreciate my PRIVILEGES on HF because I
worked hard to get them.
I guess the next step is 4 watts RMS and 12 watts PEP and Channelize the
bands and of course NO TESTING!!!! God forbid we should ask them to take a
test..

Dan N0FQN

"Mark Russo" wrote in message
...
One of these below will get you there...

Seems to me that they should bump up the current General class to
Advanced class.
This way people who worked hard to get to General will not be locked in
with the no code
folks. That seems fair?.


http://www.remote.arrl.org/news/stor.../01/19/1/?nc=1


Click he ARRLWeb: ARRL to Propose New Entry-Level License, Code-Free
HF Access