"Left Coast" wrote in message
news:hOhzd.3267$Q%4.813@fed1read06...
Yeah well here in So Calif during the big fires -- the local entities were
overloaded -- guess who assisted them. Hams

Who manned the health and wellfare (H&W) for the shelters -- Hams

Who was on the fire scenes long before the TV crews -- yep Hams

WHo passed over 1,000 H & W messages -- yep Hams

Who provided over 50 volunteers to assist with the forestry service --Hams

We didn't save the world -- but we had many accolades from the local
authorities, press, and TV

From FCC Part 97
(a) Recognition and enhancement of the value of the amateur service to the
public as a voluntary noncommercial communication service, particularly
with respect to providing emergency communications.



AND WE DID EXACTLY THAT -- HOW ABOUT YOU ????


Ball in your court

--
LC



"dontspam" wrote in message
...
Why do we pay Emergency Management millions of dollars to provide
disaster communications? So a bunch of hams with ht's can save the
world. Back to you.



On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:06:43 -0800, "Left Coast"
wrote:


When The Big One hits you won't have:
1. The Internet
2. CellPhones
3. Telephones.
4. Access to roads
5. Power
6. Heating
7. Water

But prepared Hams will have 5 thru 7 and HF and emergency power - world
wide
and locally
Think about it
And quit bashing Ham Radio - it is here to stay
25 years ago we heard these same rants and today the USA has 672,701
licensed Amateur Radio Operators
In 1970 there were about 270,000 US hams.

Ball in your court




Emergency Management is "quickly" overwhelmed in any critical emergency - as
are communications. Those "millions" of dollars have been going for many
things other than just Communications equipment - such as suits for
responders in case of a Biological attack and so on. Classes to use them.
Equipment, monitors, numerous other things - thanks to the 9/11 incident and
subsequent threats. Hams are QUITE valuable in emergencies. They have a man
at the Command post along with the Incident Commander of the scene, which
also hosts a Fire Official, Police Official, and many other "Officials" who
are involved. Communications are well used and in an orderly manner. Hams
can do all the conversing while the others can stick to doing the things
they are trained to do.

I KNOW.... I'm an EMA Coordinator and Ham Op myself. "I" can't be everywhere
and the Public Service bands are instantly swamped in those cases. Ham freqs
are plentiful and allow unhindered comms. IF telephone lines are severed,
you can kiss your computer goodbye. IF cell sites are knocked out, as they
were with the huge electrical outage in the north east, you can shove them
up your ass for all the good they are. Around here - on 9/11, the cell
phones were almost useless - the system was so overwhelmed. Sometimes,
several tries were made to get a call through. Your day to day comms ARE at
the mercy of disaster. Some day, maybe you'll find yourself ass hole deep in
an emergency and then you'll know.

Truth is, you're most likely not involved in providing emergency comms or
even as a Public Servant to know what is needed when the **** hits the fan.
More so, one who sits on his ass and watches his world collapse around him.

If you don't know what you're talking about, it is better to shut up and
look the fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

EMC

Are you guys feeding the trols?



On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:42:08 -0500, "EMC" wrote:

"Left Coast" wrote in message
news:hOhzd.3267$Q%4.813@fed1read06...
Yeah well here in So Calif during the big fires -- the local entities were
overloaded -- guess who assisted them. Hams

Who manned the health and wellfare (H&W) for the shelters -- Hams

Who was on the fire scenes long before the TV crews -- yep Hams

WHo passed over 1,000 H & W messages -- yep Hams

Who provided over 50 volunteers to assist with the forestry service --Hams

We didn't save the world -- but we had many accolades from the local
authorities, press, and TV

From FCC Part 97
(a) Recognition and enhancement of the value of the amateur service to the
public as a voluntary noncommercial communication service, particularly
with respect to providing emergency communications.



AND WE DID EXACTLY THAT -- HOW ABOUT YOU ????


Ball in your court

--
LC



"dontspam" wrote in message
...
Why do we pay Emergency Management millions of dollars to provide
disaster communications? So a bunch of hams with ht's can save the
world. Back to you.



On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:06:43 -0800, "Left Coast"
wrote:


When The Big One hits you won't have:
1. The Internet
2. CellPhones
3. Telephones.
4. Access to roads
5. Power
6. Heating
7. Water

But prepared Hams will have 5 thru 7 and HF and emergency power - world
wide
and locally
Think about it
And quit bashing Ham Radio - it is here to stay
25 years ago we heard these same rants and today the USA has 672,701
licensed Amateur Radio Operators
In 1970 there were about 270,000 US hams.

Ball in your court




Emergency Management is "quickly" overwhelmed in any critical emergency - as
are communications. Those "millions" of dollars have been going for many
things other than just Communications equipment - such as suits for
responders in case of a Biological attack and so on. Classes to use them.
Equipment, monitors, numerous other things - thanks to the 9/11 incident and
subsequent threats. Hams are QUITE valuable in emergencies. They have a man
at the Command post along with the Incident Commander of the scene, which
also hosts a Fire Official, Police Official, and many other "Officials" who
are involved. Communications are well used and in an orderly manner. Hams
can do all the conversing while the others can stick to doing the things
they are trained to do.

I KNOW.... I'm an EMA Coordinator and Ham Op myself. "I" can't be everywhere
and the Public Service bands are instantly swamped in those cases. Ham freqs
are plentiful and allow unhindered comms. IF telephone lines are severed,
you can kiss your computer goodbye. IF cell sites are knocked out, as they
were with the huge electrical outage in the north east, you can shove them
up your ass for all the good they are. Around here - on 9/11, the cell
phones were almost useless - the system was so overwhelmed. Sometimes,
several tries were made to get a call through. Your day to day comms ARE at
the mercy of disaster. Some day, maybe you'll find yourself ass hole deep in
an emergency and then you'll know.

Truth is, you're most likely not involved in providing emergency comms or
even as a Public Servant to know what is needed when the **** hits the fan.
More so, one who sits on his ass and watches his world collapse around him.

If you don't know what you're talking about, it is better to shut up and
look the fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

EMC

I've been a ham since 1957....let's see thats about 47 years....I am having
more fun now then ever.....I work dx, talk to my friends up and down the
coast and throughout the US at least once or twice a week. I love to home
brew and you can find me daily at my workbench inside my radio shack. I am
active on SSTV , AM, I belong to an exclusive CW club (FOC). I experiment
with Hi Fi SSB audio....Ham radio for me is at its best.....bands seem to be
well occupied....I don't see a problem....

Have fun, don't worry

de Mike, K6ZSR


"dontspam" wrote in message
...
Ham radio will be dead soon and they will sell the freqs to the high
bidder. Have a Merry Christmas.