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June 17th 04, 11:24 PM

In article , (Steve
the Grate Meaningful Communicator) writes:

Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: Mike Coslo
Date: 6/17/2004 1:39 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Len Over 21 wrote:

Amateur radio in general seems to be one of the most conservative
of all radio services...plus the fact that most of the hobbyists are
quite unaware of what goes on in other radio services. Amateur
radio publications seldom mention other radio services in the USA.
As a result there is a great deal of insularity (a sort of "dielectric
materialism") which, in turns, breeds even more conservatism.

I'm so glad I re-read this one - I missed that pun the first
read-through. Simply excellent.

It wasn't meant as a pun, Mike. He's being insulting. Again.

Poor nursie...can't even take some simple word-play.

Note "dielectic materialism" v. "dielectric materialism."

See "dialectic" as "a logical test of ideas for validity" versus
"dialectric" which is a fancy word for "insulator." :-)

Tsk, tsk...some are strung so tight that they are "insulated"
from a little levity. :-)

Not to mention that the paragraph you cited was yet another utterance of
ignorance, in particularly the part about ".....(radio) hobbyists are quite
unaware of what goes on in other radio services.".

He couldn't be MORE wrong....Well...Yes, he could, but it's hard to tell
with him.

I like the part about "Amateur radio publications seldom mention other
radio services in the USA".

First of all, they do. Regularly.

Oh? Where? When? :-)

Was the SINCGARS family of radios ever mentioned? A quarter million
of those radios have been produced since 1989 and are in standard
small-unit communications use of the U.S. military today. Made by
ITT, Fort Wayne, IN.

Has the PRC-104 HF manpack radio ever been mentioned? Dates back
before 1986, still in use today. The R/T module is standard in a variety
of ground radios, from the manpack through vehicular to the fixed-site
systems. Made by Hughes Ground Systems. Neat little antenna
tuner module in the manpack version...uses the same Bruene detector
first used on the USMC-contract T-195 HF transmitter back in 1955.

Has the AN/FRC-93 ever been mentioned? It should. Amateurs know
it as the ham version of the Collins KWM2. :-) Trouble is, the FRC-93
is the military-labeled version of the COMMERCIAL KWM2 which is
supplied with a quartz crystal pack covering much more than ham bands.

Ham publications have strummed HAARP and mentioned only the ham
involvement in MARS...and lots of ancient stuff of old radio stations
before most everyone's time. Just nothing in the last two decades.

Therefore Lennie's busted lying again.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie getting all red in the face with rage again and
can't pull out any information from all those "secret" military radios
"he can't talk about." :-)

Secondly, there are several "radio hobbyist" magazines available in the
US, espcially "Popular Communications" and "Monitoring Times" that cover the
"SWL" and scanning disciplines. If someone is interested in "other radio
services", then they can go to those other sources.

Won't be much there, either. :-)

There's much more on the Internet, especially the military collector
sites...but those are about as behind the times as the boatanchor
and surplus sites.

Or, anyone that is interested in what is done today in the military
(or of two decades back) can just ask anyone in the defense
electronics industry. Very little of the "radios" built for the U.S.
military or government are classified or "sensitive" (for security
reasons, not receiver sensitivity).

Lastly, why would an Amateur Radio-specific publication spend an
inordinate amount of time on "other" radio services?

"Inordinate?!?" No one was asking for "inordinate." Even a minor
mention might draw some interest...except for those who wish to
remain insular, isolated from having to learn anything but the latest
DX contest scores. :-)

Where does this idiot
(and I am being a bit liberal with praise there...) get the idea that an
AMATEUR RADIO publication should discuss issues pertaining to Public Service,
Common Carrier or military services when the topic does not correspondingly
and directly affect Amateur Radio...?!?!

Must be more of this "meaningful discourse" again. :-)

The "A" in APCO does NOT refer to Amateur.

The "A" in SHARES does NOT refer to Amateur.

The "A" in MARS does NOT refer to Amateur.

Nursie needs to know his "A" from a hole in the ground. :-)

One has to wonder what Lennie could have REALLY amounted to if he'd been
issued some grade-school level common sense.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. "Meaningful discourse?"

Poor nursie. Still resentful that someone took the time and trouble
to educate himself and keep working in radio-electronics in the
aerospace industry as a design engineer in radio-electronics and
then retire with a comfortable income. :-)

Sucks to be nursie? :-)

LHA / WMD