In MPETa.130872$Ph3.16923@sccrnsc04, "CBer" wrote:


"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
.. .
In , "CBer"

wrote:

Mabry you need to read what I said again, IN CBs there is NO audio
clipper
( look into a FM transmitter circuit and see if one of those are found
inside a CB, NOT. ) it just a feed back circuit that controls the
modulation
level by using a AGC audio circuit, and that is what the techs cut out.

You are right, most of them do use an AGC (AMC) system. Regardless, they
are
there for a reason -- they prevent overmodulation while maintaining the
dynamic
range of the modulating speech. Disabling the circuit will most definately
cause
overmodulation.

BTW, Mabry is back with the Mariner's again.

In
my reference the audio clippers does clip the audio in a symmetrical way
that sounds Good with out over modulation.

The AMC circuits are not symmetrical? And unless you happen to have a
sampling
o-scope on the bench, how do you know you aren't overmodulating? You
don't, and
you most likely are, especially when "LOUD" is your primary objective.

I did not say anything about symmetrical IN a AM AMC circuit only in the
FM circuit.

You said to put the FM clipper in an AM radio to sound loud; "Put in a mic
circuit like is used in FM equiment...." So how is it symmetrical in an FM radio
and not an AM radio? How is an AGC circuit -not- symmetrical? Or is it like your
clipper that is only symmetrical in an FM radio?

For as saying CB want to be Loud and Swing
is a kick .

Maybe to a moron or a small child.

I guess you do not get it, I HATE THE TERM SWING, and LOUD I think its
STUPTED OK.

That seems to contradict your previous statement: "For as saying CB want to be
Loud and Swing is a kick ."



Read the other post first before jumping. Open up the CBs as of today
and
compare it to other radios in the other fields, they are being in
technology, To BIG, no good engineering in them, just old circuits that
everybody in china has copied, and the same old cap.

That's because AM is old technology. Read MY other post before jumping --
radio
is a method of communication. It is not an amusement park for morons, and
not a
therapy room for unsocialized misfits whom people ignore in normal
conversation.
If you want to be 'LOUD', distort your voice, and add cool sound effects,
get an
audio effects box like a MidiVerb and plug it into your stereo. If you
want to
be heard, say something that people want to hear instead of forcing your
idiotic
and thoughtless rhetoric on them with screaming, splatter and 'swang'.
Because
otherwise, the only people you are impressing are other morons like
yourself.

Just because AM is a old technology doesn't mean that it can't use newer
style parts with some improvements
in the circuit design and a smaller BOX.

And they have made plenty of improvements over the years. Starting with tube
circuits and point-to-point wiring, moving on to PCBs, semiconductors,
integrated circuits and PLLs, and many even have seperate processors for
frequency control and audio processing. Compare the size and weight of the old
whiteface Johnson Messenger or the Lafayette HE-20 to that of any modern radios,
and if you can't tell the difference then try dropping both of them on your
feet. And don't forget that this is CB radio -- it ain't NASA, SETI, military or
commercial trunking, HDTV, cell-phone networking, or even amateur radio. CB is
about one step above a child's walkie-talkie, using modulation methods that are
older than your great-grandpappy. So how much technology do you need? Or do you
just want some hi-tech stuff in your CB radio because 'hi-tech' is cool?

Here's a new technical term for you: PLP, or Peak Learning Power. It is
defined
as the highest point on the learning curve that a person is able to
achieve.
People with a low PLP never seem to understand that "power" isn't how many
watts
you have, it's how you -control- those watts; and it's not how "LOUD" you
are,
it's how you -control- your speech. Even Twisty understands that much.
Like I
said before, get a clue. Do you want to impress people? Prove that your
PLP
wasn't maxed out by the concepts of "LOUD" and "swang".

I have a term , IHFMTYWEL. I have forgot more than you will ever learn.

That's obvious. Try to jog your memory a bit, eh?






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