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Old April 25th 04, 01:14 AM
Roger Halstead
 
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 19:03:39 -0500, Tom Ring
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Close, but not quite.

An ISP will buy pipes, such as a DS3 that does 45Mbps, for a flat rate
per month. Theoretically the upstream provider doesn't care if 1 bps or
45 Mbps are passing through that pipe; from a billing perspective, they
get the same money. But they have to play the statistical game on how
much upstream pipe that they need to handle all the 45Mbps pipes they
sold to ISPs like you. And eventually you get to the backbone
providers, who have really really big pipes, and very expensive routers.

This "power user" thing is something I've never heard anyone in the
business speak of, so I have no idea why you would get bumped. If you


I've been hearing the term ever since I got on the net and that was in
96 with my own site and in 87 through the colleges.

are not breaking the TOS agreement, ISPs don't care a rat's rear end how
much traffic you generate. You buy a pipe from the ISP and you have


Maybe you don't but many do.
They price their services based on an average user and they have a
multi tiered service.

Here if the average user is on 32 hours a month they don't complain
until you hit around 5 or 6 times the average user.

As I'm on DSL and networked 24 X 7 I pay a different rate than the
dial up customer.

Then even as a commercial user rates are based on the "bandwidth"
used. I have both a high bandwidth limit and a lot of storage, but if
my use, or my site generates traffic beyond a given point the rates go
up, or like many sites I've attempted to visit you find the "This site
has exceeded it's bandwidth limit for today", please try again
tomorrow.

every right to fill it if you can. The only exception to that would be
that you have a maximum number of hours or bytes per month. They won't
kick you if you exceed it, they just charge you an additional amount


Only if you have that agreement. Most I've seen just block access to
the site for the day, and I've come across a lot of those "this site
has exceeded...." pages.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
that you agreed to in your contract with them. Some ISPs may do it a
bit differently, but that's fairly normal in the industry.

tom
K0TAR

Tyas_MT wrote:

"Reg Edwards" wrote in message
...

Anything which increases traffic volume benefits Internet service


providers.

Uhm no... If a normal customer is using more bandwidth (receiving and
sending more email, committing virus controlled DDoS attacks, etc) Internet
service providers LOSE MONEY. They pay by the byte, you don't. Most
customers pay a flat fee for internet access. This is true of most Cable,
DSL, ISDN, and Dial-up setups... they are priced based on an expectation of
'normal' usage, and the ISP loses money in 'extreme' usage cases. Why I ( a
'power user') get nasty emails from ISP's and have to switch often.... this
one is good about that though.