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Old March 18th 05, 02:44 AM
Ernie
 
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Somebody needs to slap the **** outta AL

LOL!
wrote in message
ups.com...
Not again......
Why don't you post some logs or something interesting.


Al Patrick wrote:
YOU decide if YOU want to support Winn Dixie! :-)

I rest my case.

Al

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The Atlanta Journal and Constitution
June 25, 1994
Mother slaps unruly son, is charged with a felony
Husband: 'She was simply disciplining a child'
By Bill Torpy

Nine-year-old Chuck Kivi was incorrigible while shopping with his

mother
at the Woodstock Winn-Dixie last month.

"He was running around and being nasty to his sister [Sarah, 12]; he
kept picking and picking, saying hurtful things," Lynn Kivi said. "I
told him, 'You don't speak to anybody that way.' He shot back, 'I'm

not
talking to you.' "

Kivi slapped Chuck's cheek. As they left the store and got in their

car,
a police officer approached. "He said an employee in the Winn-Dixie
called and said I slapped my kid," she said. "I said, 'Yeah, I did.

He
was being rotten.'

"Another cop pulls up and tells me it's against the law in Georgia to


slap your child,'' said Kivi, who moved here in 1992 from Illinois

when
her husband, Dale, was transferred.

Kivi was arrested, had mugshots taken, and was handcuffed and taken

to
the Cherokee County jail. She was charged with cruelty to children (a


felony with a one-to 20-year sentence) and later released on $ 22,050


bond. Her husband, a marketing manager, cashed in his 401k retirement


account to pay the bond and hire a lawyer.

"I'm disgusted with Winn-Dixie and with the police," Dale Kivi said.
"They had no right to get involved. She was simply disciplining a

child
in need of discipline."

Woodstock police Chief Jimmy Mercer said he is surprised Kivi was
charged with a felony. He said police are under great pressure in

family
abuse cases and that the difference between abuse and discipline "is

a
real fine line. Technically, you could do it [spank a child] on the
bottom and get arrested.

"It could have just as easily been misdemeanor assault," he said.

"The
judge [Magistrate Kenneth Richards] saw enough cause to sign a

warrant.
If she's indicted, I'd be surprised."

Assistant District Attorney Dee Morris said he hasn't made a decision

on
the case.

The store manager said he thought customers called 911, but the

police
report said employees did.

The criminal warrant taken out by police says Kivi caused her son
"excessive physical or mental pain" and that "this is a recurring

event."

How did police know that? Chuck told them. "I get smacked when I am
bad," he said, according to the arrest report. Chuck says he told

police
his mother "slapped" him in the store.

In 1990, proposed changes in child abuse laws brought an outcry from
many legislators who said parents would be reported as abusers for
spanking their children. The amended definition allows "reasonable

forms
of discipline . . . so long as any injury to the child is not more

than
minimal."

Kivi pointed out that Cherokee County schools - and many other school


districts - use corporal punishment.

Mercer reasons that the officers and the magistrate pursued felony
charges because the incident occurred in public and because Chuck was


slapped in the face. He said police saw red marks.

"It aroused people enough that something bad happened, so they

called,"
said Mercer, who said he has slapped his children, "but never in the

face."

The magistrate could not be reached.

"This is persecuting parents for disciplining children," said John

Earl,
Kivi's lawyer. "One slap is not cruelty. Repeated slaps could be.''