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Old March 24th 05, 06:41 PM
uncle arnie
 
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bpnjensen wrote:

So you murder carrots and potatoes, grains, etc? To suggest that

plants are
somehow "less" than animals is species-ist (racism applied to other
forms
of life). Ever swatted a mosquito, taken an antibiotic or washed your
hands? I wonder how many life forms die everyday from these activities?


Once again, accosted by an apologist for the murder industries who uses
false logic and ridiculous analogies to uphold both the murderers and
his own chosen lifestyle. It is this simple, Arnie:

I do not need meat to thrive. The killing of anything I do not need to
survive is unjustified. Therefore, the killing of animals and eating
them is unjustified, unless it is in self-defense or a life-or-death
emergency.

Where the eating of foods is necessary to survive (and to survive I do
need to eat something), then it is justified. This why it is OK for
seals to eat fish.

Maybe the people who choose to live on rocks and bushes made a damn
poor choice. In any case, it is not OK to kill a huge proportion of
the seal population to sell off furs and increase the fisheries, which
off the east coast have been grossly depleted by rampant fishing. If
they need to kill some seals to get through a particularly harsh
winter, fine - but you won't convince me that wholesale slaughter is
justified at all.

Beyond this, it is impossible to have a logical discussion about almost
anything controversial on this medium with a person who argues using
illogism, so I won't even try. Suffice it to say that I choose to take
the least harmful and least cruel way. You may choose to take a more
cruel way; that is still perfectly legal, if morally bankrupt. If you
post supporting cruelty, I will point out where I think you're a
barbarian. I don't especially care if you like it or not, agree with
it or not.

The last word is yours.

Bruce Jensen


I respect your response, but it is still ethnocentric. Will you take people
into your country as immigrants so they don't have to live this way. You
personally do not have to eat meat to survive, but that does not allow you
or any one else to look down their noses in a "holier than thou" manner on
others. What is a "life or death" emergency? Is it okay for someone to
hunt so they can provide minimal sustenance to their family? or should the
children have no opportunity beyond their parents. Nfld has exported more
people than most other jurisdictions b/c their parents did what they had to
do to survive and provide opportunity to their kids. And yes this included
importing moose from the mainland (where they didn't previously live) as a
food source for the people. You cannot grow a garden in Nfld. It's rocks
and trees and no vegetables grow in the harsh climate. So everything is
either imported or local. And all there is is canned stuff in the stores,
or very expensive fresh things, and fish and game. So they hunt some seals
so they can buy some canned fruit, notebooks for the kids, coats and shoes.
Gas for the boat. I really think you have no idea.

Would you move the Inuit out of the arctic also? (Inuit = what you may call
Eskimo).

I don't think the last word is mine. You suggest "illogism". I suggest not
judging others by your external standards of morality.