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Old May 1st 05, 01:01 PM
K4YZ
 
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K=D8HB wrote:
"K4YZ" wrote


There is a very painful and delicate balance between the lattitude
permitted by what we call "free speech" and where your "right" to

be
abusive in public stops.


"As it is an ancient truth that freedom cannot be legislated into

existence, so
it is no less obvious that freedom cannot be censored into

existence."
-- Dwight David Eisenhower (1890-1969), 34th US President

"Our liberty depends on the freedom of speech and that cannot be

limited without
being lost."
-- Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), 3rd US President


I seriously doubt that Thomas Jefferson or ANY of the Founding
Fathers could have envisioned a society where thier cherished
principles would be so abused and misused as these.

Please, Hans...Show me SOME really GOOD reason why it's necessary
to allow the kind of conduct that Todd et al would shove down our
throats under the guise of "Freedom of Speech".

An entire nation was created without so much as one "MF", "GD" or
other profanity having made it into print or recorded as having been
said in any public forum.

Nor was it necessary for such "speech" to be recorded in history
duing the Civil War, the "War to End All Wars" or the Second World War.
We managed to save "democracy" from the Nazis, Communists and Facists
without worrying about whose civil rights we might be violating by not
allowing them to call someone a

The only valid limitation of free speech under our Constitution is

your
individual right not to listen.


There is no truly "free" society, Hans. "We" as a society decide
what standards we consider to be necessary for that society to be
judged a worthy entity.

There are valid limitations on "freedom of speech", Hans, and it
will be an ever-evolving concept.

I for one do not believe there's a single good reason to allow the
kind of profanity that spews forth from Taylorville, Illinois, to be
allowed in ANY forum.

Steve, K4YZ