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K=D8HB wrote: "K4YZ" wrote There is a very painful and delicate balance between the lattitude permitted by what we call "free speech" and where your "right" to be abusive in public stops. "As it is an ancient truth that freedom cannot be legislated into existence, so it is no less obvious that freedom cannot be censored into existence." -- Dwight David Eisenhower (1890-1969), 34th US President "Our liberty depends on the freedom of speech and that cannot be limited without being lost." -- Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), 3rd US President I seriously doubt that Thomas Jefferson or ANY of the Founding Fathers could have envisioned a society where thier cherished principles would be so abused and misused as these. Please, Hans...Show me SOME really GOOD reason why it's necessary to allow the kind of conduct that Todd et al would shove down our throats under the guise of "Freedom of Speech". An entire nation was created without so much as one "MF", "GD" or other profanity having made it into print or recorded as having been said in any public forum. Nor was it necessary for such "speech" to be recorded in history duing the Civil War, the "War to End All Wars" or the Second World War. We managed to save "democracy" from the Nazis, Communists and Facists without worrying about whose civil rights we might be violating by not allowing them to call someone a The only valid limitation of free speech under our Constitution is your individual right not to listen. There is no truly "free" society, Hans. "We" as a society decide what standards we consider to be necessary for that society to be judged a worthy entity. There are valid limitations on "freedom of speech", Hans, and it will be an ever-evolving concept. I for one do not believe there's a single good reason to allow the kind of profanity that spews forth from Taylorville, Illinois, to be allowed in ANY forum. Steve, K4YZ |
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