From: an old friend on Jul 29, 10:07 am

K4YZ wrote:
b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you
continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general
and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the
dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to
have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them.

No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP)

Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it...

Not nearly enough concern to substantiate it for you.

Not nearly enough FACTS for you to substantiate it, Brain.

right you did not provide enough facts to substnaiate it Steve you are
agreeing with him and with me

indeed you even refuse to stat what you claim those acheveiments are

Snarly Stebie doesn't do much else in this newsgroup but
boast generalities of a non-specific nature while generally
insulting everyone who doesn't agree with him.

He has changed his boasting so many times that it is difficult
to know what he has actually done or experienced.

(UNSNIP)...and I do have opinions about amateur radio issues.

None of those substantiated by reality either.

Not the "reality" that you dwell in.

My reality is truth.

you have no contact with reality prehaps not even by radio

Snarly Stebie's version of "truth" is whatever he wants to
claim on any particular day. He has NO references on any of
it. Some examples:

Stebie would challenge "call the VA and they can tell you"
[all about Stebie's military record] Actually, they can't
under a law almost two decades old restricting personal
information on individuals. Secondly, the NARA (National
Archives and Records Administration) in St. Louis, MO, is
the place to go for individual military personnel data;
that's where any VA office would go for their information.
Anyone can access the NARA website and even request data,
but that data request has to be accompanied by proof of
who you are and why you are asking (personnel departments
of companies have limited access greater than individuals).

In the beginning of Stebie's tirades he mentioned a Medical
Discharge that cut his marine career to 18 years (rather
than a full 20). He then made that an "Honorable" instead
of a medical discharge; if he had gotten that discharge some
5 years before (his alleged time was 1974 to 1992), why
would he not have said "honorable" in the beginning? That's
all archived, BTW.

Stebie claimed to have been in "seven hostile actions"
during his military career, but it seems he is spinning
that into the USMC being involved in those...while he was
in it. He has no proof at all shown in here that HE was
IN any of those hostile actions. That's in newer archives.

Stebie has claimed "working in military radio communications"
but isn't at all familiar with the very common (quarter
million R/T units made and operational) SINCGARS radio set
that went into service first in 1989 and continues to this
day. Considering his claimed active duty time was 1974 to
1992, he should at least have known about that set...and of
earlier ones. He could NOT name any particular radio set
by its nomenclature which is VERY unusual for anyone working
in that field. That's in archives over several years.

At best, Stebie's claims are only for an "Assistant" NCOIC
position at a MARS station in Okinawa in the 1980s. MARS
stations are NOT a regular part of any service branch radio
communications...are, at best, a sort of special services
like operation where they MIGHT be used for regular comms
in case of catastrophic happenings to the Defense
Communication System (DCS). That's in very recent archives.
Worse yet, it took months for Stebie to acknowledge that
the Department of Defense directs MARS, even when given the
link to the directive itself available on the Internet at
the DoD website.

Yours is...well...it's something else...

you would never know

You accept press realeases as gosple turth

that is stupid, and at best niave at worst willfully blind

Stebie works on an emotional level rather than a logical one.
If some PR spin makes him feel good, he "believes" it. If
it doesn't make him feel good, he is offended and thinks it
is an "insult" to both him and amateur radio (as he knows it).

You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks.

I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur
Radio to be an "attack" on me. You make disparaging, untrue statements
about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off.

You are easily offended. I think that you wish to be offended.

Nope. I'd like to carry one meaningful discussions (and
frequently do) about Amateur Radio issues.

a real whopper there Stevie

True! Google archives have the proof in them, in thousands of
personal-insult messages generated by Stebie...with only a few
(perhaps a dozen at most) which are actual discussions devoid
of personal attacks at somebody.

The problem is you, Lennie, and just a few other ner-do-wells who
seem to think that what you do is "constructive".

yes we think it is constructive to look behind the curtain at the real
world

That would disturb Stebie's fantasy. He wants the nicely-ordered
military-style discipline he is no longer a part of...one where
everything is explained and laid-out, no room for deviation from
the precise order of things. He can fit into that. However, if
the environment changes, he gets very upset and angry. He can't
handle disagreements with his opinions, tries to defend himself
(no need in normal discussion not about a person) by issuing a
series of personal insults directed at his perceived "accuser."

There is, nor has there ever been, a SINGLE "correct" way of
doing things in amateur radio. Amateur radio is NOT a military
branch and the ARRL is NOT a directive-issuing "headquarters" (no
matter what some like to believe). Any "need" to hold tradition
tight and fast, to "work" stations in a particular mode (such as
radiotelegraphy) is purely personal perception. Hewing to one
particular way of doing things is NOT indicative of some kind of
expertise in anything.

But, the old rank-status-privilege class consciousness of the
old six-class license system suits the ordered, disciplined
military psyche. One "works up through the ranks" (in some
folks' perception) even though the hobby is just a hobby, not a
job, not a branch of the military, not part of a union or craft
or guild. It CAN be a fun hobby, an interesting personal
recreation, but having to march in ranks to some saber-rattling
control freak's idea of what constitutes "real" ham radio is
NOT a recreation. Such is more like a variant of sado-
masochism.

Radio is radio. Electrons, fields and waves behave by THEIR
physical laws, not the laws of various administrations. By the
nature of EM propagation, administrations MUST regulate radio
use to keep the EM chaos to a minimum. Licensing is just a tool
of administrations to regulate civil radio. The "class" of
license is a human-made artificiality which does NOT recognize
any actual "expertise" (the FCC is NOT an academic institution).
Skill at radiotelegraphy does NOT indicate anything but skill in
that particular mode; radiotelegraphy does not make a radio
operate "better" (or worse) below 30 MHz. Many radio amateurs
do think so, but that is their own personal perception which
is NOT borne out by natural laws of physics...or the experience
of every other radio service.

One MUST look at what other radio services are doing. Firstly,
amateurs must co-exist in the EM spectrum with all other radio
services. Secondly, other radio services, having (usually)
more flexibility in mode type use, can offer insight into
possible new methods of communications. Thirdly, closing off
minds to what happens elsewhere and claiming it is "for the
good of amateur radio" is a simple cop-out, an excuse NOT to
learn, investigate, to enquire about new things, new
possibilities; it's a rationale for being LAZY.