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From: "an old friend" on Sat 30 Jul 2005 11:20


K4YZ wrote:
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Snarly Stebie doesn't do much else in this newsgroup but
boast generalities of a non-specific nature while generally
insulting everyone who doesn't agree with him.


Untrue, but then when has "truth" been your suit, Lennie?


entirely true


Quod erat demonstrandum...Latin for "it is as demonstrated."

Stebie has to begin by snarling and hurling epithets. :-)

He has changed his boasting so many times that it is difficult
to know what he has actually done or experienced.


I haven't been boasting.


sure have been boasting about your achivements sayning they are better
than Lenn without of course saying what they are


[just one N in the short form of my given name...:-) ]

Stebie has been "IN" those now-famous "seven hostile actions."

Actually, he has been IN military service WHILE those occurred.
He has NO presentable proof that he was "IN" those ("in" as
being a participant in). That's a good "little white lie"
kind of boast, but a BOAST nonetheless.

He has BOASTED of his physical prowess in civilian life (flying
general aviation aircraft, flying hang-gliders, roller-blading,
marching with heavy pack, etc.) while supposedly pulling in
medical pension from an early release from service, that
supposedly due to an "accident." [accident unspecified] Now,
it stands to reason that if one can do all those things as
a civilian, he is quite physically capable of completing his
"20" (years)...or he is DEFRAUDING the United States
government. Granted, the medical examination for a private
pilot license is minimal, but a job as a nurse (licensed
practical version) requires physical ability to move patients
whether in a ward or in the "ER."

On the otherhand this post I am replying to is over 300 lines
long.


So? Now you are trying to ditate how people may express themselves


Stebie's whole point in BEING here seems to be his need to
SUBJUGATE OTHERS. He LIKES pushing people around plus
"having fun" denigrating anyone he feels is "too weak" to
reply or has some kind of disadvantage. He wants to make a
"name" for himself. In that, he has, but the kind of name
he's gotten isn't a good one...:-)

Subjugation is a common technique of non-commissioned officers.
While that works in recruit depots, it is ten kinds of no-no
when used in social or semi-social groups.

Snarly Stebie's version of "truth" is whatever he wants to
claim on any particular day. He has NO references on any of
it. Some examples:

Stebie would challenge "call the VA and they can tell you"
[all about Stebie's military record]


Untrue.

You at one time doubted my having served at all. The VA CAN
varify that information. You refused, of course...Lot's of
excuses...Nothing new there...


No Stevie the people who do that but only to a small degree is USAREC
in St.Louis MO

But they can't verify a claim that you will make spefic enough to even
ask about


Poor Stebie did a bit of BLUFFING with that "call the VA" claim.
One just cannot get such information unless one is in a position
such as the personnel or security department of a business. Even
so, the information is minimal. There's a couple of public laws
on that subject for the armchair lawyers but it is of no matter.

One CAN download a standard form from NARA's St. Louis website
and send it in by mail. That's still no guarantee that any
information WILL be returned nor the extent of that information.
At best, one MIGHT get a copy of a DD214 (release from active duty)
or other one-page document provided one can supply a social
security number, both the requestor's and the person's SSN being
queried. In my case, it would be BOTH my ASN and my SSN before
they would release anything. [the changeover from service
branch specific serial numbers to social security numbers for
all branch members began in the 1960s]


Big snip

In the beginning of Stebie's tirades he mentioned a Medical
Discharge that cut his marine career to 18 years (rather
than a full 20). He then made that an "Honorable" instead
of a medical discharge; if he had gotten that discharge some
5 years before (his alleged time was 1974 to 1992), why
would he not have said "honorable" in the beginning? That's
all archived, BTW.


Well...MOST of it is archived. You've taken some literary license
with what was said, but I am sure it's much more colorful in your mind
that way.


and you admit to this or not?


Stebie NEVER admits to anything he is challenged on. :-)

What I've written is FROM his own postings in here. Whether or
not Google got ALL the archives from DejaNews since 1998 is
unknown. It is beside the point, really, one can't spend the
whole of one's computer-modem activity re-arguing and re-re-
arguing old, old arguments which some sore loser (Stebie) failed
to win.

Stebie NEVER DOES ANYTHING WRONG in here. :-)

Stebie claimed to have been in "seven hostile actions"
during his military career, but it seems he is spinning
that into the USMC being involved in those...while he was
in it. He has no proof at all shown in here that HE was
IN any of those hostile actions. That's in newer archives.


And we won't discuss any of them.


then they are claims without proof, or BYS Stevie lies


Stebie is just doing his BLUFFING thing as I remarked on.

It works with some people who read some unspecific generalities
and half-truths. I've seen others do it elsewhere much better
than Stebie, years ago. In fact, with two decades of experience
in computer-modem communications (BBSs first, then the Internet),
I've seen a LOT of variations on a few themes of boasting and
bluffing. [21 years in December of this year]

Just like you harrangue Dave Heil over his service in the State
Department (all of it fact-based and verifyable), I shant give you the
pleasure. You can go ahead and insist "it didn't happen" based upon my
refusal to tell you the details, if you care to, but ti still doesn't
make it any less factual.


just appling YOUR OWN STANDARDS Stevie


[Stebie is starting to get stressed, he is making typos and using
bad punctuation...:-) ]

Tsk, tsk, tsk. In my personal case, I've got reproducible
documents (including a reduced size DD214 that I carry for fun
in my wallet), photographs (with mimeoed SigC legends on the
back), some of the mimeographed order sheets received in three
years (xerographed since the acidic paper would make them self-
destruct if handled...and copied courtesy of the Burbank, CA,
Social Security office), communications with those who were
THERE in my unit doing the same work I did, one of whom has had
an amateur extra license for a long time. What is worse, I've
tried to send a digitized copy of my first First 'Phone license
to Stebie and HE REFUSED to accept it. :-)

It would seem that Stebie ONLY accepts things that prove HIS
case. That's consistent with his newsgroup "battle plan" (or
whatever it is for trying to win message points) of MAKING
others accept HIS unspecific general claims.

Stebie has claimed "working in military radio communications"
but isn't at all familiar with the very common (quarter
million R/T units made and operational) SINCGARS...(SNIP)


Lennie, I guess it's silly to point out to you that SINCGARS is
NOT the end-all of radio communications in the Armed Forces.


but you know nothing of the system where I a 54E know a afair about
them, without having served a commo related MOS. make it very dubious


The SINCGARS "family" of R/Ts is now a QUARTER MILLION in number
of supplied and operational small-unit radios used by ALL
branches (USCG use unknown), primarily for land and land-air
tactical communications. They began operational life in 1989,
first in Korea. Designed and made by ITT, Fort Wayne, IN,
(other production by General Dynamics Land Division now
disbanded and reorganized), a QUARTER MILLION radio sets of the
same type exceeds every other U.S. military radio set/system in
number. Ever.

Stebie had five years of his service life to see one, yet is
"unfamiliar" with it. [the USMC does indeed use it, is using
it now in Iraq and Afghanistan, as is the USA] For that matter,
Stebie cannot recall/remember/mention ANY nomenclature of any
military radio except some MARS equipment, despite 18 years
claimed as a military radio whiz-bang. That's NOT consistent
with ANY radio-interested person. [Stebie is unfamiliar with
the HF-band AN/PRC-104 manpack in service since 1986 with
land forces...nice little "QRP" rig designed and made by
Hughes Aircraft Ground systems, operational with USMC and USA]

Your 3000th telling of yet another SINCGARS story does not make it
any more valuable than any other communications resource...Then, now or
in the future.


Tsk, tsk. A QUARTER MILLION radio sets is not "significant?"
How about a type that has selectable encrypted voice plus
selectable frequency hopping...both features making it quite
difficult to DF, almost impossible (in the field) to decrypt?
It's been in operational use for 16 years and will be
(eventually, but soon now) supplanted by the AN/PRC-150 by
Harris Corporation.

Tsk, only in Stebieworld (at the signpost up ahead) is a foot
soldier's secure communication means "insignificant!" :-)

At best, Stebie's claims are only for an "Assistant" NCOIC
position at a MARS station in Okinawa in the 1980s. MARS
stations are NOT a regular part of any service branch radio
communications...are, at best, a sort of special services
like operation where they MIGHT be used for regular comms
in case of catastrophic happenings to the Defense
Communication System (DCS).


But...but...but...LENNIE!

YOU are the one who made the big deal about who runs MARS, etc etc
even when it wasn't an issue!


more stevie lies


True enough, Mark. Poor Stebie made a reply to Hans Brakob
writing "Sorry, Hans, MARS IS amateur radio." Brian
Burke then picked up on that and chided him. Stebie became
outraged and tried three ways from Sunday to rationalize it.
I went and looked for the DoD directive on MARS, found it,
posted the link, included a short-form history of how MARS
came to be (it was 'born' in the U.S. Army before WW2).

MARS IS NOT amateur radio but a MILITARY radio service,
an auxilliary or "affiliate" (the A in MARS), operates
OUTSIDE the U.S. ham bands, has its own callsigns. Amateurs
are volunteers for MARS activities. The Army wanted amateur
participation in the early radio days prior to WW2 in order
to improve its own radio abilities...which were improved,
indeed leap-frogged in technology advancement, by commercial
firms just prior to the U.S. involvement in WW2.

NONE of the pre- or post WW2 military radio communications
networks USED MARS for everyday tactical radio comms. During
the old Vietnam War times ('Nam ended 30 years ago), it was
a definite morale-booster for personal communications to
"stateside." There's no need of such morale-boosting service
now with the much-improved worldwide military communications
such as the DSN and satellite relay. MARS has shifted its
focus to become a tertiary communications system in case of
catastrophic events for the military but is now active as a
liason service to tie together other government communications.

That's in very recent archives.
Worse yet, it took months for Stebie to acknowledge that
the Department of Defense directs MARS, even when given the
link to the directive itself available on the Internet at
the DoD website.


you claimed otherwise


Stebie claimed that otherwise. :-)

I doubt that Stebie EVER went to the DoD website to find the
directive document. Anyone can. It isn't "classified."

It was never in question.

Lennie is uttering a blatant falsehood every time he repeats this.

Lying IS Lennie's forte. This is why Lennie H doesn't get the
respect and admiration he THINKS he deserves...


Stevie just goes and on dening his own words


True enough, Mark. I think Stebie has actual ATTACKS within
his own mind where little voices in his head scream "they LIE,
they LIE, they LIE!" :-)

TRUTH is its own "admiration." TRUTH is "respectable."

A continual repetition of "LIE, LIE, LIE" in the face of proof
that anyone can view is a sickness on Stebie's part.


And the darned ironic thing is that I'm the one who usually jabs
Lennie, yet Lennie engages in all these "persoanl insult" diatribes at
almost everyone...


you must be reading a different Usenet than I am Stevie or be lying or
delusional


Mark, I'd pick DELUSIONAL. Stebie's flipped out, gone bananas,
wigged out (he looks like he's ready for a hairpiece anyway).

"The truth is out there..." which is still true even if "X-Files"
ceased production. :-)


The problem is you, Lennie, and just a few other ner-do-wells who
seem to think that what you do is "constructive".

yes we think it is constructive to look behind the curtain at the real
world

That would disturb Stebie's fantasy. He wants the nicely-ordered
military-style discipline he is no longer a part of...(SNIP)


Wrong.


right You can't handle to turth


The delusional can only recognize the "truth" existing in their
fantasy. They have great difficulty with reality, therefore
cling mightily to their fantasy "truths."

(UNSNIP)...one where
everything is explained and laid-out, no room for deviation from
the precise order of things. He can fit into that. However, if
the environment changes, he gets very upset and angry. He can't
handle disagreements with his opinions, tries to defend himself
(no need in normal discussion not about a person) by issuing a
series of personal insults directed at his perceived "accuser."


Even MORE ironic that I have never addressed you (or anyone) as
the "accuser"...that would be a LennieTerm. One that helps to
establish "victim status"


more Steve evasion, and another lie you have called me on accusing you


Stebie attempted some wordplay in there, made like a "victim"
of a "false charge." :-) It doesn't work but he doesn't
realize it yet. :-)

Stebie constantly ACCUSES certain others of heinous things like
"LYING!" even though such things are truth. He can no longer
separate right from wrong, let alone emerge from fantasy into
reality.

There is, nor has there ever been, a SINGLE "correct" way of
doing things in amateur radio.


There's been ONE constant in Amatuer Radio...

The license.


then why don't and why have you never treated other license holder with
any respect?


Mark, you just don't fit Stebie's fantasyworld concepts. :-)

[note that Stebie misspelled "amateur" as "Amatuer" again,
something that is common with his upset/stressed state...]

To Stebie, ham radio is ALL about the LICENSE! Not the fun
of communicating, not the camaraderie of white male club-
house fun, not the interest in the radio hardware, it's the
LICENSE! That makes Stebie a SOMEBODY! He's "federally-
authorized!" Wow. What a concept!

even if I granted you abuse of Lenn on that issue it doesn't explian
your treatment of Myself of Todd and of Brain


Brian Burke, that is...but you are right, Mark, his comments
ARE hypocritical. It's his "PCTA extra Double Standard"
hypocrisy operational again...sigh.

The one you don't have...The one you CAN'T get.


More Libel Steve the second half of the statement is liekly not true
and you should know it is likely not true


You are right again, Mark. But Stebie is hot and fired-up on
his ATTACK mode again...as if any U.S. amateur radio class
license is "impossible for me to get." :-)


Amateur radio is NOT a military...(SNIP)


Your reality is slipping again, Lennie...


no he is trying to guess at the nature of your twisted mind


No guessing...he's a bit nuts. I was making a comment that
U.S. amateur radio is NOT any sort of military service.

It isn't. It is a "service" insofar as a service of the
government to licensees. The word "service" all throughout
Title 47 C.F.R. is as a regulatory term denoting a type and
kind of radio use/activity in a particular Part.

You really stretch to make these up, don't you..?!?!


not at all you seem to act like a drill sgt (whatever the fool marines
call the army calls em that), and expect the rest of us are going to
fall in


Stebie stormed into this newsgroup long ago acting like "super-
marine," a regular DILL Sergeant (my term), he of the pursed
lips (puckered from too much dill and vinegar) and tried to
make all of us who disagreed with him "drop and give me ten!"

Along the way his DILL Sergeant campaign hat got all askew
and he wound up barking orders to a bunch of blank walls.


But, the old rank-status-privilege class consciousness of the
old six-class license system suits the ordered, disciplined
military psyche.


You keep mentioning "military psyche" along with your 1950's-era
radio stories, Lennie...


yes he does. your point?


Actually, Mark, I've mentioned 1960s radio, 1970s radio, 1980s
radio, 1990s radio, 2000s radio all along.

Stebie tried to MISDIRECT into "blaming his accuser" again. :-)

Poor guy still hasn't been able to separate civilian life
from military life. He still thinks he is SOME kind of
national service through his "amatuer" [sic] radio license.

Radio is radio.


No, it's not. Not in the APPLICATION.


Radio is NOT radio Stevie? my, my you do need your meds


He won't take them, Mark. :-)

He still thinks that his DILL Sergeant barking can get all
those electrons, fields, and waves to do Stebie's bidding.

Tsk. The only reason there is licensing in amateur radio
is as a regulatory tool for the government, in this case
the FCC. All nations do that. Unfortunately, some take
this "amatuer" [sic] radio thing as a LIFESTYLE and magnify
it far beyond what it is...a hobby.

This forum is about AMATEUR RADIO...Not Army, or PLMRS, or GMRS,
etc etc etc.


then why don't you write about Amateur Radio once and awhile


He's having too much fun gabbling and boasting about MARS and
CAP and the murines and stuff where he was a SOMEBODY! :-)

Big snip.

One MUST look at what other radio services are doing. Firstly,
amateurs must co-exist in the EM spectrum with all other radio
services.


We must co-exist in that we do not cause any disruption of service
to OTHER radio services. What goes on inside those band edges is a
whole different story.


IOW we should ignore the technolgies around us and focus on what? Morse
Coded OOK CW?


Absolutely! Everyone march to the SAME drumbeat! Order!
Discipline! Cherish the tradition! Status the Quo!

Secondly, other radio services, having (usually)
more flexibility in mode type use, can offer insight into
possible new methods of communications.


But...but...but...LENNIE!

YOU are the one who keeps yelling "IT'S JUST A HOBBY!"

Where does the FUN of operating radios that are software defined
and require almost NO human interaction to make work go...?!?!


I on't particular want to work that hard just to make the RADIO go, Id
rather spend my time and effort dealing with people at the other end


It could be that Stebie wants SDR. That's an acronym for
Soft-head Defined Radio. :-)


Thirdly, closing off
minds to what happens elsewhere and claiming it is "for the
good of amateur radio" is a simple cop-out, an excuse NOT to
learn, investigate, to enquire about new things, new
possibilities; it's a rationale for being LAZY.


Lennie...YOU keep repeating that threadbare and untruthful rant
over and over, and it's no more true today than when you first sprout
it.


you operate that way, Jim N2EY is politer about but operates that way


True enough. Stebie thinks I am "growing" opinions because
they "sprout?" :-)

He's a case...mental case growing worse. Terribly fascinating
to watch his psychosis develop over the years, much better than
classroom learning in psychology. His blabberings are more and
more black-and-white, no shades of gray. Emotionally more
volatile than a vial of nitroglycerine. :-)

nit pik