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Old February 25th 07, 07:15 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Default OT Canadians now in the race to the bottom.

On Feb 24, 9:24 pm, m II wrote:
Cato wrote:
On Feb 24, 8:14 pm, m II wrote:
Cato wrote:
Well, this "dumbass Canuck" is damn glad that Canada is next to the
United States. I can easily guess how different things would have been
had Canada existed on the border of Russia, or China.
You may not have noticed, but we ARE on the border of Russia. Can you
still easily guess just how things would have been? Exactly as they are now.


mike




Both countries claim ownership of the globe up to the pole. I don't
believe we were discussing a particular TYPE of border. In the general
scheme of things people will fight over an area the size of an ice cube
if it's in on a disputed border area.

A neighbour is still a neighbour, whether they're across the alley or
beside you.

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Hello Mike:
And then sometime in the future European countries and North American
countries might try to claim the Atlantic Ocean all the way to the Mid-
Atlantic Ridge. So then we would share borders with Ireland and
Portugal etc.
Countries can make any claims that they want. Doesn't mean that
their claims are valid. That can only be detemined by negotiation in
an international setting. The fact remains, Russia is on the other
side of the Arctic Ocean. Canada does not share a border with Russia.
Territorial water extend to 12 miles from mean low water mark next to
land. Exclusive Economic Zone can extend to 200 miles. Anything beyond
that is International Waters. Especially beyond the continental shelf.
This is determined by international global agreements. The UN
Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf in accordance with
the United Nations Convention of the Law of the Sea has not, to this
point ruled in favour of anyones claims to the area of the North Pole
beyond anyone's continental shelf. The Russians tried to make a claim
beyond their continental shelf for a huge area that includes the North
Pole itself, but they have received no answer beyond a statement that
recommends additional research into the subject. Canada claims the
waters around and between their islands in the Arctic. In any case,
anyone who thinks that Canada shares a border with Russia in any
normal understanding of the term "Border" is badly mistaken. Canada
shares a border with Russia about as much as Canada shares a border
with Scotland.
Let's not try and argue about anyone's supposed claim to the Arctic
Ocean up to the North Pole. At this point in history no one has a
valid legal claim to the North Pole that would be accepted by the
international community. I suppose that there is a possibility that
the situation could change in the future. But then which way would the
decision go? In whose favour? No one knows at this point.
Let's go back to what I was trying to say... If Canada shared a
border with China or Russia (the former Soviet Union), for the past
one hindred years, (a "Land Border" for those who have difficulty
understanding), things would have been much different for Canada. Just
look at what any country that borders (Land Border), on Russia has
gone through in the last one hundred years. Damn glad we share our
border with the U.S.
Back to you Mike.....