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Old April 4th 07, 12:16 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
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Default Timonium hamfest observation

I'm astonished by the naivity of this!

Why would you think that a part or bag of parts marked "bad" should really
be good, and that you should be getting good parts for the price of bad
ones? This didn't raise any red flags for you? If you went to the
supermarket and found a piece of meat that was marked 2 weeks out of date,
would you take a chance on it because the merchant said he ate some last
night and he didn't get sick? Even if the seller said that most parts that
he tested were good, the fact remains that the parts were marked "bad". If
you bought parts marked "bad" and they really were bad, then the only
questionable part of the transaction is whether you paid too much.

There's an old saying that seems to apply he "Who's more of a fool, the
fool or the fool who follows the fool?". This isn't a matter of deceitful
Asians or East Indians, or Russians, it's a matter fools rushing in where
others fear to tread.

Joe
W3JDR





"gudmundur" wrote in message
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Hey folks,

What is going on with the Russians selling obviously defective
junk and representing it as first quality good merchandise??

Of course there are dubious characters at hamfests but this was
just over the edge this year!!

Stacks of CDR drives, Hard drives, all marked 'bad' somewhere
on them and marked $5 each or in that area. When asked about the
drives and not pointing out that it is already marked as 'bad'
the guy replies in crappy english "I have not tested all of these
but every one I tried has worked". So I go out and drag my laptop
in and guess what??? Five out of five random drives I selected
failed completely. Some didn't even spin up. Are these guys
dumpster diving outside a factory repair center or is this the
stuff we sent over to Russia to have disassembled for the recycle
value? Well I also tried some RAM chips. Again, the very bags
these things were in were marked 'Fails memory test'. The seller
represented them as 'good pull outs'. They couldn't have been any
worse if they had been struck by lightening. It is one thing to
say to the buyer "I really don't know the condition, you're buying
as-is", or "I haven't tested it, but if there is a problem you may
choose a differant one until you find a good one". These guys were
blatently misrepresenting garbage as good useable merchandise!!!
We went through this with the Asian wave, then came the East Indian
wave, now it's the former Soviet block ripoff artists.
I didn't get any business cards from the guys but I wish I had.
These jokers will kill hamfesting by causing folks to think it is
nothing more than a ripoff field-day for the un-suspecting and I
really think these less than reputable folks should be reported
to the hamfest commities.

Caveat Emptor is one thing, but this was just outright lies on the
part of the seller. Pity those who are just starting out in this
hobby and looking for a bargin and get scammed, buy foriegn nationals
at that!!

I did find some Ram for my laptop, a 6C5 vacuum tube, a 'point
and shoot' temperature reading device, some doorknob capacitors,
a 21 pin Cinch Jones male-female pair, and an external floppy
drive for a Thinkpad. All these items were in perfect condition
and the sellers (who were not Russian) were more than happy to
demonstrate the first-rate quality of those items. Hats off to
the rare breed of honest hamfester!!!!