Cecil Moore wrote:

It is exactly my point that
there is no phase shift associated with standing-
wave current in a coil or in a wire so it CANNOT
be used to "measure" phase shift.

On the other hand, the standing wave, which is nothing more than the
superposition of the forward and reflected waves, easily demonstrates
the effect the propagation delay has on the forward and reflected waves.

There is NO
phase information in the current used for the
W8JI and W7EL measurements.

That certainly can't be said about your measurements. Perhaps that's
why you're so reluctant to make any? :-)

They both apparently
thought they were measuring traveling-wave currents
when the currents were actually overwhelmingly
standing-wave currents.

Don't flatter yourself, Cecil. You're not that much smarter than
everybody else in the room.

73, ac6xg