Petert,
I bemoan the fact that so many on this newsgroup such as yourself
just do not understand complex circuits and how it relates to
antennas.
We have an abundance of people who can only do the talk as well as
some that can do the walk. As far as antennas and complex circuitry
goes you have shown that you can only do the walk. That will disapoint
the Doctor of Phillosophy as well as the Bum since they now do not
have anybody to follow, tailgate or whatever for their snide remarks
without content. You are quite correct that
having something after your name as it only shows a level of education
that you have recieved and not meant to show what one has achieved.
As for myself it was my future employer that paved the way with money
and government interjection for me and my family to come to the U.S.
If I 'fooled' them then at that time while in the U.K.then I fooled
them until my retirement in the U.S.where again I became a nothing.

You however, feel that not having retired retains a couple of steps
above us that have, which gives you the right to admonish at will with
a spray of He, He ,He's and a "What" or "****' thrown in for good
measure probably to relieve your own similar tensions obtained by you
from your collegues at work !

Art
By the way I have this picture of you in my mind that shows you short
in height
but certainly not retund. Am I close?
As for lifes track record time is short and the grim reaper does not
give advance notice so get moving.

"Peter O. Brackett" wrote in message link.net...
Art:

My friend you have me confused with someone else!

I have never once commented or posted anything about *your* antenna
inventions or technical claims. Nor do I intend to until you stop whining!

What I have commented on is your many posts which contain
complaints laments and cries for pity and understanding because of your
claimed lack of knowledge, expertise, or whatever.

Your suppositions that others do not give your *inventions* credit
simply because you lack such personal qualifications is plain stupidity.

Art, that's why I call you "cry baby" and "whiner".

If your technical inventions/claims/whatever... are great then they will
stand
on their own merits and need no support by claims of the insufficient
qualifications of their inventor!

I have noted one here who gives a damn what technical credentials you,
or any other poster to the NG, hold! Your qualifications are irrelevant to
the subject.

[Unless of course you happen to hold a Ph.D. from Cornell
in Astrophysics, only then apparently can you claim that your
graduaton diploma makes your inventions unique and special!
[Heh, heh... That last sentence was not meant to denigrate
that fine University, only one of it's claimed graduates.]

Art, just stop your whining and let the world get on with its
valid and invalid critiques of your work!

Hey... Oliver Heaviside, never accepted his nomination to the Royal Society,
by degreed grandees and he never completed grade school, or studied anything
formally beyond age 16, yet Oliver stood with the greatest scientists,
mathematicians,
engineers and natural philosphers of his time simply be "doing" things that
they couldn't.

Education, academic degrees, and technical training mean nothing.

Art my friend, it's your "track record, it's what you accomplish in life
or do that is important, not what examinations you have passed!

Get real you big cry baby, let what you have done or accomplished stand on
it's
own merits and see if it survives and what others think of it, and just stop
all of your
damned whining!

If it doesn't survive the critiques of the world then it isn't worth a damn
anyway.

No one pays attention to whiners!

I for one simply don't care to waste valuable time investigating any
technical advances
or claims put forward and supported by a whiner and whining.

Whining about inferiority and lack of academic qualifications is a sure sign
that the
prosyletizer probably has nothing worth while to contribute.

Art, put your ideas and inventions out there and let others have at it, if
your ideas
and accomplishments are worthy they will stand on their on, if not they
wont!

But whining about inferior technical qualifications...? What does that
accomplish?

Whining... Man, give it up!

Instead, spend your bandwidth on clear concise explanations of your the
benefits
and originality of your technical contributions.

Nuff said?

--
Peter K1PO
Indialantic By-the-Sea, FL.



"Art Unwin KB9MZ" wrote in message
m...
"Peter O. Brackett" wrote in message
link.net...
Mac:

[snip]
"J. McLaughlin" wrote in message
...
Dear Peter:
I would have sent this to you privately, but you do not provide a
valid E-mail address.
[snip]

The Internet "worms" nearly *killed* my computer communications
capability
this past year, no thanks to the younger generation of unethical
"hackers"
and
brought to everyone courtesy of the "world's richest man", and so these
days...

If you want to email me direct you must send via the arrl dot net relay.

:-)

[snip]
Well done on presenting the sequence of understanding and
emphasizing the role of mathematics.
[snip]

Thanks!

As you no doubt appreciate, it pays to know a little history only to
avoid repeating it.

There is very little ambiguity equivocationn or cause for argument when
using the universal albeit sometimes cryptic language of mathematics.

The elementary mathematical skills which Art often eschews are neither
difficult nor expensive to acquire and definitely not difficult to carry
around.

Such skills do however require some little dedication to study...

just as the ham radio license *used to* require. :-)

Art's "cry baby" attitude about his lack of such skills does nothing to
help
either himself or the other NG participants.

"Mathematics - just do it" would be a good motto for Art to follow
perhaps
replacing his continual complaints regarding his lack of ability and
qualifications.
Art's "cry baby" comments only appear boorish and become very tiresome
to
NG participants.

Well Peter now you are being stupid and making up stories.
Maybe I can expect the same tactics that you put on Chip when he made
claims on antennas which you didn't understand
But I am ready. You stated lack of skills on my part well I have
enough of those skills that you are talking about. I made the claim of
an antenna that uses all those skills and you stated a good engineer
knows when to discard his model. Well Peter, if you were an engineer
you would not discard it until you made a working model and compared
it to theory ( using all those mathematical skills that you bandy
about or as I say talking the talk). I also gave you the theoretical
background of the antenna and invited you to point out the fallacies
, mathematical ofcourse, and all you still do is 'talk the talk' with
no show.
Well Peter, if that the attitude you need to take me on with then be
my guest,
even with the likes of the Doctor and the Bum holding your coat or
throwing snide remarks is not enough to push me off the newsgroup like
you did with Chip.
So go ahead and be my guest and flaunt your mathematical skills to
show how I and my antenna is a fake and my skills are lacking. I would
love it for you to make a stand on that subject so everybody can see
who you are and what you are
when forced to 'walk the walk'. If I haven't the qualifications in
any subject I carefully state so especially when talking on this
newsgroup,
I am no way interested in infering that I am an expert where I am not,
there are enough doing that already, but with respect to my antenna
work I stand by it. I am willing to walk the walk but you Peter
obviously feel more comfortable in just talking or making acrid
remarks.

So I am staying here Peter, and you can have at it and show your true
colours
Can I now expect for you to sue me now since you are well practiced at
that?

Art Unwin..... XG



[snip]
In "Hamerica" some real Engineers are P.E.s. It is not just for
Canadians.
[snip]

Well Mac as you well know, MI is not far from Canada sharing both
a riverside a lakeside and common weather. What's your point?

:-)

[snip]
73 Mac N8TT
--
J. Mc Laughlin - Michigan USA
[snip]

Speaking of Michigan, my wife and I attended a party at our next door
neighbour's home here last week. MI snowbirds, Jo and Ivan had just
arrived here in FL from MI to stay over the season here in their winter
home on our "tropical island".

Me? Even though an ex-Canadian, I like it here on the island all year
long.

Mac. Take care and enjoy the Holiday Season up North.