Am 20.10.2011 06:56, schrieb Scout:


"Thomas Heger" wrote in message
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Am 20.10.2011 05:08, schrieb Scout:


"Thomas Heger" wrote in message
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Am 18.10.2011 18:27, schrieb RD Sandman:
Thomas wrote in news:9g42k9F672U1
@mid.individual.net:

What if these 'theories' are in fact true.

So far, none of them have proved to be.

Not every one of course, but
one of them. What would it tell you about the people in the
government?
No good things, I guess.

Most folks in government are just like you and me. They go to work,
they
try to do a good job and then come home.



I do not agree. Do you know, why 'conspiracy theories' bear this name?

Because that's all they ever amount to....a theory....lacking any actual
support or evidence.


I usually do not use the term 'conspiracy'.

I acknowledge your desire and attempt to change the subject.

I can only wonder why you don't wish to talk about the 'theory' aspect
of it.

Perhaps because it hits too close to home?


Conspiracy is a crime in anglo-saxon law, where two or more people
conspire, to harm somebody by illegal means.

I acknowledge your ignorance of the English language as well, since a
conspiracy does NOT have to be a crime.

This does not require 'hidden means' or secrecy. It just requires more
than one person. 'Conspiracy' is among these extremely strange laws,
you have in America.

Then I take it you're not American, and that you think that a conspiracy
can only occur under American law.

No, I don't say so and I don't mean it.

What you call 'conspiracy' is in German 'Verschwörung'.
This term comes from 'Schwur', what is 'oath' in English.

The theory (actually the correct term would be 'hypothesis') is, that
there are groups - connected around the globe - through a system of oath
and hidden connections.

Actually it is a known fact, that such systems do exist. These are
(predominantly) masons, jesuits and mobsters. Also the SS of the Nazis
used such means. But many other groups have oath, even if not hidden.
Only the SS had the habit to kill those, that would not follow the oath,
while e.g. the boy scouts don't.

Now Kennedy addresses in his speech, that these conspiracies would exist
as wast international system (shortly before he got killed).

So the idea itself has some merits. Only it is very hard to prove, since
the system is hidden and whistle-blowers get killed.

Actually I wouldn't think, that the jesuits would kill somebody, that
wants to leave, what leaves Nazis and mobsters as possible perpetrators.

TH