But it would be almost exactly what ARRL asked for 5 years ago, when they 
proposed that Techs get HF CW privs. 
 
The "Tech-with-HF" semi-class is a classic designed-by-a-committee confuser. If 
a Tech passes 5 wpm code, but doesn't upgrade, he/she gets HF Novice privs for 
as long as he/she holds onto the Element 1 CSCE. But said CSCE can't be used 
for Element 1 credit after 365 days. 
 
OTOH, an expired Novice or Tech-with-code license document of any vintage is 
good for Element 1 credit. Pre-March-21-1987 expired Tech licenses are also 
good for Element 3 credit. 
 
So someone who passed the 5 wpm code test in front of a single volunteer 
examiner 50+ years ago and got a Novice or Tech license as a result gets credit 
for Element 1, but someone who took the test 366 days ago gets no credit ofr 
their CSCE. 
 
And an expired-beyond-grace-period General, Advanced or Extra license gets no 
credit at all. 
 
Anyone think having the amateur license test/class regs make sense is a 
priority to FCC? 
 
73 de Jim, N2EY 
 
 
Likely some non-ham brearucrat had to write these rules.  Said person 
probably 
didn't understand that someone who had a general or extra license had to 
pass 
a higher speed code test, which in turn qualifies them to do 5WPM.  He 
probably 
though copying 5WPM was completely different than 13 or 20 (in a sense it is 
a bit different but not enough to disqualify someone for 5). 
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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