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i just picked up a Midland radio 75-822 portable cb. it has the noaa
stations too. i am looking for a hi gain ruber ducky bnc antenna. can anyone
suggest one?


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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:13:52 GMT, "Kryptoknight"
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i just picked up a Midland radio 75-822 portable cb. it has the noaa
stations too. i am looking for a hi gain ruber ducky bnc antenna. can anyone
suggest one?


A high gain rubber ducky is an oxymoron.


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Kryptoknight wrote:

i just picked up a Midland radio 75-822 portable cb. it has the noaa
stations too. i am looking for a hi gain ruber ducky bnc antenna. can anyone
suggest one?



High gain generally relates to large size.

"Rubber Ducky" antennas are low gain compromises.

There is no such animal as "High Gain Rubber Ducky" [pun intended]

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i know i know. the factory one is a dual band 10" antenna (cb and noaa). i'm
looking for the ~27MHz cb band antenna that is approx 12-18" long. this
would have better gain than what i have now, but obviously not like a 1/4 or
1/2 wave antenna.

any suggestions on through-glass mini "loaded" cb antenna.


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Kryptoknight wrote:

i just picked up a Midland radio 75-822 portable cb. it has the noaa
stations too. i am looking for a hi gain ruber ducky bnc antenna. can
anyone suggest one?


High gain generally relates to large size.

"Rubber Ducky" antennas are low gain compromises.

There is no such animal as "High Gain Rubber Ducky" [pun intended]



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i know the through-glass antenna suck balls, but i did not want to install a
huge whip.

i have a 2006 tacoma with tonneau cover. i would do a hard mount on my roof
as long as the antenna was one of those thin stainless types. any
suggestions (model / part #'s)?

thanks


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i know i know. the factory one is a dual band 10" antenna (cb and noaa).
i'm looking for the ~27MHz cb band antenna that is approx 12-18" long. this
would have better gain than what i have now, but obviously not like a 1/4
or 1/2 wave antenna.

any suggestions on through-glass mini "loaded" cb antenna.


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Kryptoknight wrote:

i just picked up a Midland radio 75-822 portable cb. it has the noaa
stations too. i am looking for a hi gain ruber ducky bnc antenna. can
anyone suggest one?


High gain generally relates to large size.

"Rubber Ducky" antennas are low gain compromises.

There is no such animal as "High Gain Rubber Ducky" [pun intended]







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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:24:33 GMT, "Kryptoknight"
wrote:

i know i know. the factory one is a dual band 10" antenna (cb and noaa). i'm
looking for the ~27MHz cb band antenna that is approx 12-18" long. this
would have better gain than what i have now, but obviously not like a 1/4 or
1/2 wave antenna.

any suggestions on through-glass mini "loaded" cb antenna.


Hi OM,

The difference between an infinitesimal antenna and a quarterwave
antenna is only 5%. However, to get the small antenna to resonate
brings far more opportunity for loss. 12-18" long is not likely to
bring you any advantage but carefree dreams unless you can strangle
the loss.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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Richard Clark wrote:

The difference between an infinitesimal antenna and a quarterwave
antenna is only 5%. However, to get the small antenna to resonate
brings far more opportunity for loss. 12-18" long is not likely to
bring you any advantage but carefree dreams unless you can strangle
the loss.


To clarify, that 5% is only for a lossless antenna. When the antenna
becomes very short, you also take a beating in conductor loss, since the
currents get enormous, so the antenna itself becomes inefficient. And of
course if the antenna depends on current through the ground, you take a
beating there for the same reason. So add conductor and possibly ground
loss to the inevitable loss in the matching network which must also deal
with high current and/or high voltage.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL
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so there is no better ducky antenna than the one that came with this cb ??

any suggestions on a roof mounted thin stainless whip??


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Richard Clark wrote:

The difference between an infinitesimal antenna and a quarterwave
antenna is only 5%. However, to get the small antenna to resonate
brings far more opportunity for loss. 12-18" long is not likely to
bring you any advantage but carefree dreams unless you can strangle
the loss.


To clarify, that 5% is only for a lossless antenna. When the antenna
becomes very short, you also take a beating in conductor loss, since the
currents get enormous, so the antenna itself becomes inefficient. And of
course if the antenna depends on current through the ground, you take a
beating there for the same reason. So add conductor and possibly ground
loss to the inevitable loss in the matching network which must also deal
with high current and/or high voltage.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL



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Just use a regular CB antenna. It will work fine. I had one of these radios
years ago and used a little center loaded CB antenna that was just about 2
feet long I got from Kmart. Not a great antenna for CB but I could pick up 3
or four NOAA stations in the area. Even a full size CB antenna will work
well with it. A discone antenna can be modified to work on both the NOAA
frequencies and CB equally well by extending 3 of the rods that make the
skirt of the antenna to 1/4 wl at CB freq and adding another1/4 wl section
that extends vertically from the disk.

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i just picked up a Midland radio 75-822 portable cb. it has the noaa
stations too. i am looking for a hi gain ruber ducky bnc antenna. can
anyone suggest one?



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