On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:39:13 GMT, "Frank's" wrote:

"Walter Maxwell" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 15:39:16 +0100, "Reg Edwards"

wrote:

Any Tom, Dick and Harry can copy and build a circuit out of a book.

But it takes a top-class engineer just to look at a strange circuit
and describe what it does, how it works.

These days, there are mostly Tom's, Dick's and Harry's!
====================================
Amendment -

For "circuit" read "antenna".

"Tom's, Dick's and Harry's" has replaced "old wives". ;o) ;o)

====================================

Hello Reg,

I haven't previously tried to attach a jpg file in this arena, but I'm
going to
try. If my jpg file comes through, can you describe what it does and how
it
works?

Walt, W2DU

Rats, now you have me intrigued Walt. Too bad the pic did not work.
Just tried to post a picture, but it seems there is a filter on the NG to
prevent such postings.

Reg, have made a lot of progress in developing a NEC 4 model
of a 100 radial system. Just have to iron out a few bugs. When this
is completed I can try some high frequency models.

Frank

Hi Frank,

I used the 'help' menu in Agent, but it doesn't seem to let me post an
attachment. Guess, like you said, it must be an NG rule that prevents it.
Anyhoo, jist fertheleovit, I'm going to email you the jpg file fyi.

Walt, W2DU

Hi Frank,

I used the 'help' menu in Agent, but it doesn't seem to let me post an
attachment. Guess, like you said, it must be an NG rule that prevents it.
Anyhoo, jist fertheleovit, I'm going to email you the jpg file fyi.

Walt, W2DU

Yes Walt, I got a message in the send window that said the NG rejected it.
Don't forget to removed the "nospam." from my e-mail address, also note
the period after the "m"., which must also be removed.

Will be curious to see the jpeg, but doubt I will be smart enough to figure
it out.

Thanks,

Frank

I used the 'help' menu in Agent, but it doesn't seem to let me post an
attachment.

In order to post a jpg you would need to essentially convert it to
text. I think a program called uuencode does it.
Then it comes out looking like 15,000 lines of garbage to anyone
reading the articles here. It would make you a lot of enemies faster
than calling CQ on 14336.

Put it another way - the rec.radio newsgroups are text only.

Rick K2XT

The hell you say. Richard's jpg of VSWR came through quite nicely.

Jim



Put it another way - the rec.radio newsgroups are text only.

Rick K2XT

RST Engineering wrote:
The hell you say. Richard's jpg of VSWR came through quite nicely.

Not on my news-server. It appears that some ISP's block
binaries and some do not.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Cecil Moore wrote:
RST Engineering wrote:
The hell you say. Richard's jpg of VSWR came through quite nicely.

Not on my news-server. It appears that some ISP's block
binaries and some do not.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Few news servers will handle binaries.

Almost every news reader will automaticaly ASCII encode a binary on
transmission and decode it upon receipt.

That's a bit simplified, but basically how it works.

--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.

Rick wrote:



In order to post a jpg you would need to essentially convert it to
text. I think a program called uuencode does it.
Then it comes out looking like 15,000 lines of garbage to anyone
reading the articles here. It would make you a lot of enemies faster
than calling CQ on 14336.

Problem with the 336 crowd is that they almost never check before _they_
transmit up or down the band. And if they do check, they wait about 500
milliseconds before they figure the freq is clear. They have lots of
enemies themselves, myself being one. They have a very poor reputation
on 20.

tom
K0TAR

Guys:

FYI...

Walt is correct. This "rec.radio.amateur.antenna" USENET NG (aka "rraa") and
many other newsgroups redact any graphics, attachments or inserts associated
with NG posts, allowing only text to be posted. This practice is followed
of course in the interests of both memory and bandwidth conservation at the
"free" USENET servers. No one running USENET servers makes money!

However, a number of years ago a special USENET newsgroup was set up by
USENET volunteers in the "alt.binaries" area, to be used for short term
postings of graphics content related to electronics such as schematics,
etc...

There are a couple of minor problems associated with this approach. (1) For
one, the biggest problem is that not all ISPs actually carry the
"alt.binaries" groups due to either, server memory limitations or, because
several (many?) alt.binaries groups carry pornograhic graphics. (2) The
second small "problem" is that, again for reasons of memory conservation,
the "turnover" of postings on those graphics/binaries groups is fairly high.
That is postings are cycled through fairly quickly, usually with
availability of only a week or so. And so one should surf on over to the
alt.binaries group quickly to view or download any desired postings.

All that said however, ya'll should find that
"alt.binaries.schematics.electronics" (aka "abse") is a good place to post
drawings, schematics, block diagrams, photos and other graphics content
related to electronics and antennas, etc.

The usual procedure in the "electronics" groups such as
"sci.electronics.design" (aka "sed") is to mention that the
graphics/schematic referred to in your postings, has been posted on the
other NG that accepts graphics/binaries.

For example lots of the folks who hang out and discourse on:
"sci.electronics.design" (aka "sed") post their schematics, block diagrams,
photos, etc... to "alt.binaries.schematics.electronics" (aka "abse").

There is no reason why the denziens of "rraa" cannot post their antenna
graphics on "abse".

Sign up for abse and... Go for it... just do it!

Hope this helps. :-)

--
Pete k1po
Indialantic By-the-Sea, FL

"Walter Maxwell" wrote in message
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On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:39:13 GMT, "Frank's"
wrote:

"Walter Maxwell" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 15:39:16 +0100, "Reg Edwards"

wrote:

Any Tom, Dick and Harry can copy and build a circuit out of a book.

But it takes a top-class engineer just to look at a strange circuit
and describe what it does, how it works.

These days, there are mostly Tom's, Dick's and Harry's!
====================================
Amendment -

For "circuit" read "antenna".

"Tom's, Dick's and Harry's" has replaced "old wives". ;o) ;o)

====================================

Hello Reg,

I haven't previously tried to attach a jpg file in this arena, but I'm
going to
try. If my jpg file comes through, can you describe what it does and how
it
works?

Walt, W2DU

Rats, now you have me intrigued Walt. Too bad the pic did not work.
Just tried to post a picture, but it seems there is a filter on the NG to
prevent such postings.

Reg, have made a lot of progress in developing a NEC 4 model
of a 100 radial system. Just have to iron out a few bugs. When this
is completed I can try some high frequency models.

Frank

Hi Frank,

I used the 'help' menu in Agent, but it doesn't seem to let me post an
attachment. Guess, like you said, it must be an NG rule that prevents it.
Anyhoo, jist fertheleovit, I'm going to email you the jpg file fyi.

Walt, W2DU