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Because Ham radio is dying.


E V E R Y T H I N G D I E S

I also hear the buggy whip industry is doing pretty lousy except in
Lancaster, PA.




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Because Ham radio is dying. If you make it easier, you can attract more
losers who may have joined earlier. Shortwave and Ham radio is dead. If
you ask the man on the street what AM or FM is? They can answer you
,it"s what the hear on their car radio. The difference is the buttons
on the radio. If you ask them what shortwave is? They would not have a
****ing clue. It's DEAD. Get a life.
Slow Code wrote:
So why do it?

SC








Why do we want to let in people that don't want to be hams?

SC
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all sounds a bit fishy to me
eal issue
red herring

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On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:44:48 GMT, Slow Code wrote:

"EchoBlip" wrote in
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Because Ham radio is dying.

E V E R Y T H I N G D I E S







Why do we want to let in people that don't want to be hams?

red herring

why are we exclding people able to be ham nd that want to for no
reason at all

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IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod?


ikeFNB wrote:
all sounds a bit fishy to me
eal issue
red herring

mike

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On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:44:48 GMT, Slow Code wrote:

"EchoBlip" wrote in
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Because Ham radio is dying.

E V E R Y T H I N G D I E S







Why do we want to let in people that don't want to be hams?

red herring

why are we exclding people able to be ham nd that want to for no
reason at all

SC

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Douche Bag wrote:
IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod?

wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive
dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it

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an old friend wrote:
Douche Bag wrote:
IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod?

wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive
dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it


Isnt that the main point tho.... they have no power to do anything...

They are just sad ppl with nothing better to do. Next they will be
saying that
you should have to pay a monthly fee to use the airwaves...

Maybe have a subscription fee, that would stop most of the scum (yeh
right)



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Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Douche Bag wrote:
IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod?

wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive
dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it


Isnt that the main point tho.... they have no power to do anything...

They are just sad ppl with nothing better to do. Next they will be
saying that
you should have to pay a monthly fee to use the airwaves...

Maybe have a subscription fee, that would stop most of the scum (yeh
right)

well a GMRS like license would surely do better asa filter than the
code test look at the code tested ham we have on the air now

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an old friend wrote:
Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Douche Bag wrote:
IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod?
wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive
dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it


Isnt that the main point tho.... they have no power to do anything...

They are just sad ppl with nothing better to do. Next they will be
saying that
you should have to pay a monthly fee to use the airwaves...

Maybe have a subscription fee, that would stop most of the scum (yeh
right)

well a GMRS like license would surely do better asa filter than the
code test look at the code tested ham we have on the air now


What part of the GMRS license would be a better filter?

The 5 year duration between renewals, the $75/£40 charge or just the
general way of applying for it?

Im not saying i disagree, just wondering what you meant..

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Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Douche Bag wrote:
IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod?
wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive
dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it

Isnt that the main point tho.... they have no power to do anything...

They are just sad ppl with nothing better to do. Next they will be
saying that
you should have to pay a monthly fee to use the airwaves...

Maybe have a subscription fee, that would stop most of the scum (yeh
right)

well a GMRS like license would surely do better asa filter than the
code test look at the code tested ham we have on the air now


What part of the GMRS license would be a better filter?

The 5 year duration between renewals, the $75/£40 charge or just the
general way of applying for it?

Im not saying i disagree, just wondering what you meant..

having to pay to use the ARS freqs might be more of a deterant to those
with bad attiudes than a code test

not to say it would be a good filter but fee for license with the
license fee used for enforcement here in the state the license is free
(the tests cost something) and the FCC is always complaining it laks
any funding to go after ham violators I suspect you are a brit and so
this might escape you I should have been clearer

nice to see someone serious paying attention here I had assume the
flamers and trolls had driven them off

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an old friend wrote:
Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Douche Bag wrote:
IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod?
wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive
dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it

Isnt that the main point tho.... they have no power to do anything....

They are just sad ppl with nothing better to do. Next they will be
saying that
you should have to pay a monthly fee to use the airwaves...

Maybe have a subscription fee, that would stop most of the scum (yeh
right)
well a GMRS like license would surely do better asa filter than the
code test look at the code tested ham we have on the air now


What part of the GMRS license would be a better filter?

The 5 year duration between renewals, the $75/£40 charge or just the
general way of applying for it?

Im not saying i disagree, just wondering what you meant..

having to pay to use the ARS freqs might be more of a deterant to those
with bad attiudes than a code test

not to say it would be a good filter but fee for license with the
license fee used for enforcement here in the state the license is free
(the tests cost something) and the FCC is always complaining it laks
any funding to go after ham violators I suspect you are a brit and so
this might escape you I should have been clearer

nice to see someone serious paying attention here I had assume the
flamers and trolls had driven them off


Yep, im british.

I can see your point about the FCC complaints, lack of funding is the
usual reason for them not to bother to go after ham violators. If they
charged users then they would be able to use that money to go after the
retards who clog todays airwaves...

And the flamers/trolls havent driven us all off, we just go into hiding
until we see something of interest, and just ignore the rest...

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Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Douche Bag wrote:
IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod?
wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive
dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it

Isnt that the main point tho.... they have no power to do anything...

They are just sad ppl with nothing better to do. Next they will be
saying that
you should have to pay a monthly fee to use the airwaves...

Maybe have a subscription fee, that would stop most of the scum (yeh
right)
well a GMRS like license would surely do better asa filter than the
code test look at the code tested ham we have on the air now

What part of the GMRS license would be a better filter?

The 5 year duration between renewals, the $75/£40 charge or just the
general way of applying for it?

Im not saying i disagree, just wondering what you meant..

having to pay to use the ARS freqs might be more of a deterant to those
with bad attiudes than a code test

not to say it would be a good filter but fee for license with the
license fee used for enforcement here in the state the license is free
(the tests cost something) and the FCC is always complaining it laks
any funding to go after ham violators I suspect you are a brit and so
this might escape you I should have been clearer

nice to see someone serious paying attention here I had assume the
flamers and trolls had driven them off


Yep, im british.

I can see your point about the FCC complaints, lack of funding is the
usual reason for them not to bother to go after ham violators. If they
charged users then they would be able to use that money to go after the
retards who clog todays airwaves...

And the flamers/trolls havent driven us all off, we just go into hiding
until we see something of interest, and just ignore the rest...

indeed but you can't discuss any changes as I suspect you have ntoiced

and for that matter I have never seen why we have to have all of us
geting our license by the same path

indeed I have always liked an idea with some folks talking a rule and
safety test (and being confined to built equipment) and pay a fee while
others would takerigourous test and no fees

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