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On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:46:22 GMT, "John, N9JG"
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I certainly appreciate the comments and advice from you and the other
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John,

I think you will benefit from this.

http://k6mhe.com/n7ws/Ladder_Line.pdf

Danny, K6MHE


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An excellent article. It appears to indicate that at 7 MHz a feed line made
from 100' of Wireman 554 window line would have a loss of about 2 db when
the line is wet. When the line is dry, the loss is insignificant.

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On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:46:22 GMT, "John, N9JG"
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I certainly appreciate the comments and advice from you and the other
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-- John, N9JG


John,

I think you will benefit from this.

http://k6mhe.com/n7ws/Ladder_Line.pdf

Danny, K6MHE




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John, N9JG wrote:
An excellent article. It appears to indicate that at 7 MHz a feed line made
from 100' of Wireman 554 window line would have a loss of about 2 db when
the line is wet. When the line is dry, the loss is insignificant.


I've often wondered how someone "wets" a vertical feedline
without using soap.
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 01:50:54 GMT, Cecil Moore
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I've often wondered how someone "wets" a vertical feedline
without using soap.


Cecil,

Just drop by my qth anytime between November and May.

Danny, K6MHE





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Danny Richardson wrote:
Just drop by my qth anytime between November and May.


How do you keep the water on the feedline? Mine
always beads up and falls to the ground.
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 02:48:16 GMT, Cecil Moore
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Danny Richardson wrote:
Just drop by my qth anytime between November and May.


How do you keep the water on the feedline? Mine
always beads up and falls to the ground.


I don't do anything. Ever heard of Oregon mist?

When I first moved up here on the northern California coast I put up a
doublet feeding it with window line. The next spring when I dropped
the antenna for some maintenance I found moss growing on the feed
line.Need I say it was replaced with something better?

Danny

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On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 20:24:59 -0700, Danny Richardson
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 02:48:16 GMT, Cecil Moore
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Danny Richardson wrote:
Just drop by my qth anytime between November and May.


How do you keep the water on the feedline? Mine
always beads up and falls to the ground.


Here's a photo of a piece of Danny's line (Wireman 552), after it set
around in the Arizona 5% humidity for a while It was still green when
I got it.

http://www.k6mhe.com/n7ws/MossyLine.jpg

What do you suppose the dielectic properties are when that stuff
totally bridges the line and is wet?



I don't do anything. Ever heard of Oregon mist?

When I first moved up here on the northern California coast I put up a
doublet feeding it with window line. The next spring when I dropped
the antenna for some maintenance I found moss growing on the feed
line.Need I say it was replaced with something better?



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Cecil Moore wrote:

Danny Richardson wrote:

Just drop by my qth anytime between November and May.



How do you keep the water on the feedline? Mine
always beads up and falls to the ground.


No it doesn't!! You just can't see what surface tension causes to 'stick'

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The author used a wetting agent.

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John, N9JG wrote:
An excellent article. It appears to indicate that at 7 MHz a feed line
made from 100' of Wireman 554 window line would have a loss of about 2 db
when the line is wet. When the line is dry, the loss is insignificant.


I've often wondered how someone "wets" a vertical feedline
without using soap.
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com



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John, N9JG wrote:
The author used a wetting agent.

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John, N9JG wrote:

An excellent article. It appears to indicate that at 7 MHz a feed line
made from 100' of Wireman 554 window line would have a loss of about 2 db
when the line is wet. When the line is dry, the loss is insignificant.


I've often wondered how someone "wets" a vertical feedline
without using soap.


So is the lesson that Ladder line sucks, or is it that we shouldn't
wash our ladder line with soap and water? 8^)

Has anyone run tests on what "real" (open) ladder line does when you
spray it with wetting agent and water?

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -


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