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Cecil Moore wrote:
Gene Fuller wrote: Does Hecht really say that more power goes into the glass than enters the 1/4WL film? Can we somehow bottle this free energy and save the world? Gene, here's a complete fixed font irradiance diagram of the air to thin-film interface including all components. Reflectance = 0.01, Transmittance = 0.99 Forward irradiance component Ifor=1W --| |-- I1=0.99W I3=0.01W--| air | thin-film Reflected irradiance component |-- Iref=0.0101W I4=0.01W--| |-- I2=0.0001W I1 + I2 + 2*SQRT(I1*I2) = 1.0101W = Ifor in the thin-film This is "total constructive interference" per Hecht. I3 + I4 - 2*SQRT(I3*I4) = 0W = Iref in the air This is "total destructive interference" per Hecht. Those are the irradiance equations from "Optics", by Hecht. As Hecht asserts, the destructive interference equals the constructive interference and the reflections toward the source are canceled. Cecil, Don't bother. I understand the physics quite well, thank you. It is your message that causes grief. On the other hand, I don't really care to try to educate you any further, so the grief is quite small. 73, Gene W4SZ |
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Gene Fuller wrote:
Don't bother. I understand the physics quite well, thank you. So, is anything technically wrong with what I posted? It is all copied out of various parts of "Optics", by Hecht. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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![]() Cecil Moore wrote: Gene Fuller wrote: Don't bother. I understand the physics quite well, thank you. So, is anything technically wrong with what I posted? It is all copied out of various parts of "Optics", by Hecht. From what page in "Optics" by Hecht is the 1 watt laser problem and analysis copied? 73, Jim AC6XG |
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Jim Kelley wrote:
From what page in "Optics" by Hecht is the 1 watt laser problem and analysis copied? The 1 watt laser mental exercise is my idea. Everything else is directly from "Optics", by Hecht. A 1 watt ideal laser was chosen for its single frequency and coherent characteristics to avoid any more "brighter than the surface of the sun" postings. Why are you afraid to discuss a 1 watt laser? -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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Cecil Moore wrote:
Gene Fuller wrote: Don't bother. I understand the physics quite well, thank you. So, is anything technically wrong with what I posted? It is all copied out of various parts of "Optics", by Hecht. Cecil, Yes, there was something technically wrong. The message I responded to had a glaring violation of conservation of energy. Your follow-up corrected the problem. 73, Gene W4SZ |
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Gene Fuller wrote:
Yes, there was something technically wrong. The message I responded to had a glaring violation of conservation of energy. Your follow-up corrected the problem. Gene, as you know, there is no such thing as a violation of conservation of energy. But the reflectance at the thin-film surface is 0.01 and a reflection is unavoidable. So how does the reflected 0.01 watts/unit-area of irradiance keep from violating the conservation of energy principle? Where does that energy go? My follow-up answered those questions. Two rearward pointing power flow vectors are associated with wave cancellation of the EM fields. That's destructive interference resulting in constructive interference in the opposite direction. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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