"Alun L. Palmer" wrote


73 de Alun, N3KIP

(20wpm Extra, 100% phone op)


Alun,

With all due respect, your signature line kind of reveals your agenda. We
aren't talking about Extra's who don't use CW/rtty/data. The folks we're
talking about here are Generals, the most populous HF license class in the US.
On 75m they have just had their CW/rtty/data spectrum reduced by 2/3rds. That's
outrageous!

73, de Hans, K0HB

wrote


funny I thought they could still CW everywhere in band


That' may be true in theory, but not in practice. You can't use CW on
frequencies which your license class prohibits. Generals just lost 150kHz of
prime CW/rtty/data spectrum from 3.6 to 3.75MHz, the other parts of the band
their license class doesn't allow. So much for "CW everywhere in band".

73, de Hans, K0HB

wrote


sorry they may well have lost spectrum wher they can data i have n't
looked at the details but the rules concerning CW use have not changed


No, the rules concerning CW use have not changed. Those rules have never
allowed a General to transmit CW (or anything else) in frequencies reserved for
Extra and Advanced. In the case we're discussing the 150kHz from 3600 to 3750
have now been reserved for Extra and Advanced, and are now off limits to General
who previously could transmit CW/rtty/data in that segment.

73, de Hans, K0HB

KØHB wrote:
wrote


sorry they may well have lost spectrum wher they can data i have n't
looked at the details but the rules concerning CW use have not changed


No, the rules concerning CW use have not changed. Those rules have never
allowed a General to transmit CW (or anything else) in frequencies reserved for
Extra and Advanced. In the case we're discussing the 150kHz from 3600 to 3750
have now been reserved for Extra and Advanced, and are now off limits to General
who previously could transmit CW/rtty/data in that segment.
hmm they lost acutals hz did they? is that what you are tlaking around
or did things just get shuffed around same number hz justchanging the
mode avalable

in the later I say where the beef if they lose acutaul hz for any use
(total number for all modes then I have to wonder

73, de Hans, K0HB

KØHB wrote:
wrote


funny I thought they could still CW everywhere in band



That' may be true in theory, but not in practice. You can't use CW on
frequencies which your license class prohibits. Generals just lost 150kHz of
prime CW/rtty/data spectrum from 3.6 to 3.75MHz, the other parts of the band
their license class doesn't allow. So much for "CW everywhere in band".

73, de Hans, K0HB



The comment is that you can use CW anywhere within the allowable
frequencies for you class of license.

Dave WD9BDZ

KØHB wrote:
On 75m they have just had their CW/rtty/data spectrum reduced by 2/3rds.

Hans, has CW been barred from parts of 75m? I haven't
read the R&O.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

"Cecil Moore" wrote


Hans, has CW been barred from parts of 75m? I haven't
read the R&O.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com


No, but Generals will be evicted from 3600-3750 if the R&O stands as written.

73, de Hans, K0HB

KØHB wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote
Hans, has CW been barred from parts of 75m? I haven't
read the R&O.

No, but Generals will be evicted from 3600-3750 if the R&O stands as written.

I thought there was an unwritten law that no new
rule would cause any loss of privileges. Are you
sure the FCC actually did that?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

"Cecil Moore" wrote


I thought there was an unwritten law that no new
rule would cause any loss of privileges. Are you
sure the FCC actually did that?


If it wasn't the FCC it was someone who very much looks like them. Full R&O is
at http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-06-149A1.doc or you can
get a short version at http://www.arrl.org

73, de Hans, K0HB

KØHB wrote:
Full R&O is
at http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-06-149A1.doc or you can
get a short version at http://www.arrl.org

I personally would like to see all amateur frequencies
open to CW operation by any and all classes of licenses.
Want an incentive? There it is.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com