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What the heck! Like I was told earler, it's the "Golden Rule". I
just forgot about that, and tried to make sense of HAM.


If you mean the origin of the word "Ham' the best guess is from the ARRL
"Ham: a poor operator. A 'plug.'"

That's the definition of the word given in G. M. Dodge's The Telegraph
Instructor even before radio. The definition has never changed in wire
telegraphy. The first wireless operators were landline telegraphers who left
their offices to go to sea or to man the coastal stations. They brought with
them their language and much of the tradition of their older profession.

In those early days, spark was king and every station occupied the same
wavelength--or, more accurately perhaps, every station occupied the whole
spectrum with its broad spark signal. Government stations, ships, coastal
stations and the increasingly numerous amateur operators all competed for
time and signal supremacy in each other's receivers. Many of the amateur
stations were very powerful. Two amateurs, working across town, could
effectively jam all the other operators in the area. When this happened,
frustrated commercial operators would call the ship whose weaker signals had
been blotted out by the amateurs and say "SRI OM THOSE #&$!@ HAMS ARE
JAMMING YOU."

Amateurs, possibly unfamiliar with the real meaning of the term, picked it
up and applied it to themselves in true "Yankee Doodle" fashion and wore it
with pride. As the years advanced, the original meaning has completely
disappeared.



73 From CL


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Yep.

But I am a guy who grew up thinking the word gay meant happy. Now I relate
gay to abomination... go figure.

JS

"Caveat Lector" wrote in message
...

What the heck! Like I was told earler, it's the "Golden Rule". I
just forgot about that, and tried to make sense of HAM.


If you mean the origin of the word "Ham' the best guess is from the ARRL
"Ham: a poor operator. A 'plug.'"

That's the definition of the word given in G. M. Dodge's The Telegraph
Instructor even before radio. The definition has never changed in wire
telegraphy. The first wireless operators were landline telegraphers who

left
their offices to go to sea or to man the coastal stations. They brought

with
them their language and much of the tradition of their older profession.

In those early days, spark was king and every station occupied the same
wavelength--or, more accurately perhaps, every station occupied the whole
spectrum with its broad spark signal. Government stations, ships, coastal
stations and the increasingly numerous amateur operators all competed for
time and signal supremacy in each other's receivers. Many of the amateur
stations were very powerful. Two amateurs, working across town, could
effectively jam all the other operators in the area. When this happened,
frustrated commercial operators would call the ship whose weaker signals

had
been blotted out by the amateurs and say "SRI OM THOSE #&$!@ HAMS ARE
JAMMING YOU."

Amateurs, possibly unfamiliar with the real meaning of the term, picked it
up and applied it to themselves in true "Yankee Doodle" fashion and wore

it
with pride. As the years advanced, the original meaning has completely
disappeared.



73 From CL




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... I just forgot about that, and tried to make sense of HAM.

The answer that gets a chuckling response (especially from
NON-hams) is "In my case, 'HAM' stands for 'Hardly Any Money'"!

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On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:12:24 -0800, "Caveat Lector"
wrote:


What the heck! Like I was told earler, it's the "Golden Rule". I
just forgot about that, and tried to make sense of HAM.


If you mean the origin of the word "Ham' the best guess is from the ARRL
"Ham: a poor operator. A 'plug.'"

That's the definition of the word given in G. M. Dodge's The Telegraph
Instructor even before radio. The definition has never changed in wire
telegraphy. The first wireless operators were landline telegraphers who left
their offices to go to sea or to man the coastal stations. They brought with
them their language and much of the tradition of their older profession.

In those early days, spark was king and every station occupied the same
wavelength--or, more accurately perhaps, every station occupied the whole
spectrum with its broad spark signal. Government stations, ships, coastal
stations and the increasingly numerous amateur operators all competed for
time and signal supremacy in each other's receivers. Many of the amateur
stations were very powerful. Two amateurs, working across town, could
effectively jam all the other operators in the area. When this happened,
frustrated commercial operators would call the ship whose weaker signals had
been blotted out by the amateurs and say "SRI OM THOSE #&$!@ HAMS ARE
JAMMING YOU."

Amateurs, possibly unfamiliar with the real meaning of the term, picked it
up and applied it to themselves in true "Yankee Doodle" fashion and wore it
with pride. As the years advanced, the original meaning has completely
disappeared.



73 From CL


Hey! Way cool, CL! I Love trivia History.

One can learn so much this way without all boring people to death
with all the pointless and grueling details!

As for the original meaning, I agree with you on that part; it's
been forgotten and lost under the bed with the dust-bunnies of time.
However, I believe your suspicion on the meaning is probably more than
accurate, AND the "Spark-Gap" transmission gear of the earlier
`Station Operators equipment list is quite true, which makes me stop
and think about the more logical divergence of things, of which we
nowadays find our selves in. . . If the Old Time Operators were
outrageous scoundrels with their Spark-Gap technology, even if the
technology failed to carry through to today times, the "noxious
attitude about the ridiculous, mandatory 5 wpm Code requirement for
licensing" has come through along with all the fervor and mind-numbing
hatred towards humanity of these early-day "Phrekers". The personal
need of these people to cram it into everybody's face in and rub it in
hard, is still evident regardless of how pointless the issue has
become with the REAL people in power.

Dropping the requirement down to 5 WPM is purely ridiculous and
pointless. It only reflects the attitude of petty tyrants. . . Or
power crazed, pre-computer era, Spark-Gap, Phrekers. =)

(That one was aimed Right at you S.C.) =) Pthtttttt!

Bawhahahahaha!
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Fred Furlly wrote:
Hey! Way cool, CL! I Love trivia History.


One more piece. Back around 1953, my Elmer, (Shorty,
SK, W5OLV - old lousy virgin), told me that the "ham"
in ham radio originated with the way English cockney
amateur radio operators pronounced "'amateur" as in
"ham-ateur".

One note on antennas: W5OLV talked to those cockneys
on 10m with an RG-11 fed 75m dipole. When I later
learned that an 80m dipole used on 10m would be 4
wavelengths long, I thought Shorty was pretty
ignorant. It's true that 1/2WL on 80m would be 4
wavelengths on 10m but I much later realized that
28MHz/4MHz = 7 and 7/2 = 3.5 wavelengths. As I
remember, Shorty's dipole was ~117 feet long.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com


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" One more piece. Back around 1953, my Elmer, (Shorty,
SK, W5OLV - old lousy virgin), told me that the "ham"
in ham radio originated with the way English cockney
amateur radio operators pronounced "'amateur" as in
"ham-ateur".


Not sure I believe that; there are not many people in England who talk like
Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins!!

73
Jeff


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Jeff wrote:
"Not sure I believe that;"

Amateurish efforts are often called "ham-handed". I`ll guess it just got
shortened to "ham".

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

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Fred Furlly wrote in news
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:12:24 -0800, "Caveat Lector"
wrote:


What the heck! Like I was told earler, it's the "Golden Rule". I
just forgot about that, and tried to make sense of HAM.


If you mean the origin of the word "Ham' the best guess is from the ARRL
"Ham: a poor operator. A 'plug.'"

That's the definition of the word given in G. M. Dodge's The Telegraph
Instructor even before radio. The definition has never changed in wire
telegraphy. The first wireless operators were landline telegraphers who
left their offices to go to sea or to man the coastal stations. They
brought with them their language and much of the tradition of their
older profession.

In those early days, spark was king and every station occupied the same
wavelength--or, more accurately perhaps, every station occupied the
whole spectrum with its broad spark signal. Government stations, ships,
coastal stations and the increasingly numerous amateur operators all
competed for time and signal supremacy in each other's receivers. Many
of the amateur stations were very powerful. Two amateurs, working across
town, could effectively jam all the other operators in the area. When
this happened, frustrated commercial operators would call the ship whose
weaker signals had been blotted out by the amateurs and say "SRI OM
THOSE #&$!@ HAMS ARE JAMMING YOU."

Amateurs, possibly unfamiliar with the real meaning of the term, picked
it up and applied it to themselves in true "Yankee Doodle" fashion and
wore it with pride. As the years advanced, the original meaning has
completely disappeared.



73 From CL


Hey! Way cool, CL! I Love trivia History.

One can learn so much this way without all boring people to death
with all the pointless and grueling details!

As for the original meaning, I agree with you on that part; it's
been forgotten and lost under the bed with the dust-bunnies of time.
However, I believe your suspicion on the meaning is probably more than
accurate, AND the "Spark-Gap" transmission gear of the earlier
`Station Operators equipment list is quite true, which makes me stop
and think about the more logical divergence of things, of which we
nowadays find our selves in. . . If the Old Time Operators were
outrageous scoundrels with their Spark-Gap technology, even if the
technology failed to carry through to today times, the "noxious
attitude about the ridiculous, mandatory 5 wpm Code requirement for
licensing" has come through along with all the fervor and mind-numbing
hatred towards humanity of these early-day "Phrekers". The personal
need of these people to cram it into everybody's face in and rub it in
hard, is still evident regardless of how pointless the issue has
become with the REAL people in power.

Dropping the requirement down to 5 WPM is purely ridiculous and
pointless. It only reflects the attitude of petty tyrants. . . Or
power crazed, pre-computer era, Spark-Gap, Phrekers. =)

(That one was aimed Right at you S.C.) =) Pthtttttt!

Bawhahahahaha!



If you don't want to be a capable and useful operator Fred, there's
always 11 meters you can go to. No tests required. Off you go.

SC
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