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Cecil Moore wrote:
Tom Donaly wrote:
You should emulate Cecil. He has the
hide of a Texas rhinoceros and never loses an argument ...

Tom, I have lost lots of arguments. When I am
proved wrong, I immediately switch sides and
hope that nobody remembers me being wrong. :-)

Isn't that SOP? (standard operating procedure)

Common Cecil! We ALL know that one. grin

Regards,
JS

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Cecil Moore wrote:
...
One wonders if only nitrogen and oxygen molecules
rubbing on copper can cause that effect.

Cecil:

One wonders if NASA didn't have a few problems with scooting
aircraft/spacecraft thousands of mph though atmosphere with such
problems, and how they over came them?

Regards,
JS

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On 11 Dec 2006 16:25:36 -0800, "art" wrote:

Richard, we get bored at some of your comments

Hi Art,

I can also see that you are bored with antennas, especially:

Center Frequency of use 14.25 MHz
element length height

1 209.46 927.1 feed element
2 198.25 973.97
3 172.78 822.86
4 219.83 964.4
5 185.53 922.4

Did you get bored with a gaussian bundle?

When I threw 4 of the 5 wires away, the gain sprang right up and it
came closer to match. But that would make it inefficient, wouldn't
it?

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

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John Smith wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
When I am
proved wrong, I immediately switch sides and
hope that nobody remembers me being wrong. :-)

Isn't that SOP? (standard operating procedure)

Not for an omniscient guru who already knows everything
and is therefore incapable of ever being wrong. :-)
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

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What I don't understand Tom is that Richard has a brain and yet he
stoops to this kind of behaviour which is usually the path of people
incapable of individual thought. The latter I sympathise with and do
not feel the need to respond to and ofcourse there is always the evil
person lurking around that is filled with hate.For my part I was
astonished as to how this group regarded the idea of a diiferent
antenna aproach which has now been accepted by better qualified people
that you find on this group. I have spoken to people who have known
Richard and all say the same thing he is discruntled with life and ..
well I wont go into that.But even as amateurs we are all interested in
antennas and when yet when one comes along it is rejected without one
iota of intelligent educational discussion or thought of delving into
just a cacaphony of insults from those who have mistaken anticipation
that all is known, at least with this group. Not everybody has the
opportunity of getting an education and many are not capable of
absorbing it thinking that they know everything that is important.
Ofcourse when you read about it you can always take the stance that Roy
takes i.e. I don't understand which can change later when it becomes
more fully understood. Amateur radio is a hobby for all types of people
mostly old guys angry at the thought of change or dying but that is not
a reason that thinking people can't get together and discuss a niche in
the hobby in the search of knoweledge knowing that knoweledge alone
does not lead to miraicles. Sometimes this group reminds me of a
statement I heard years ago.
"The sporadics are fighting again"
Art


onishedTom Donaly wrote:
art wrote:
. Art was

being an invidious pig and I called him on it.


snip and I was responding to an invidious pig
When he stops these snide attacks on me then things
like this wouldn't happen Richard declined my hand on
all this because he says he enjoyes it
So as somebody said I am not here to be a lump on a log
that people feel they must take a hack at. Tom you have
been around this group for a long time and know how Richard is
and I am determined not to be trashed into oblivion like CHIP
in the face of attacks from him , Roy and others.
You only have to go back a few posts to see
examples of his trash towards me and I will retaliate, anyway
I can until he stops..... His choice

73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH



Calm down, Art. Reg Edwards (PBUH) managed to stay in good humor
when he was the recipient of Richard's little bons mots, and you can
do at least as well as Reg in this regard. Chip managed to hold his own
without sinking to the level of a thirteen year old, and you can do that
too. (Although a few of Chip's alter egos were pretty far gone on the
puerile side.) You should emulate Cecil. He has the
hide of a Texas rhinoceros and never loses an argument (he never wins
one, either). As for your feelings about San Francisco, it's not like
you think it is, and even if it were, at your age no one's going to
ask you to play drop-the-soap no matter how eager you might be to
join the fun.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

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Richard you can't change your spots that quickly. I am confident of
what I was talking about
and I know you have a brain so I need some convincing as to what you
are really up to before I respond in kind. You have turned so many
times as you have drawn me into discussions that I have no interest in
joining you down there in digging a hole since life is good from where
I stand. I tried sharing and it didn't work so you can write a
critical article after you read what I have found. Your confirmation is
not important in my life.Why don't you dunk my posts so this silliness
can come to a stop? Find your jollies elswhere.


Richard Clark wrote:
On 11 Dec 2006 16:25:36 -0800, "art" wrote:

Richard, we get bored at some of your comments

Hi Art,

I can also see that you are bored with antennas, especially:

Center Frequency of use 14.25 MHz
element length height

1 209.46 927.1 feed element
2 198.25 973.97
3 172.78 822.86
4 219.83 964.4
5 185.53 922.4

Did you get bored with a gaussian bundle?

When I threw 4 of the 5 wires away, the gain sprang right up and it
came closer to match. But that would make it inefficient, wouldn't
it?

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

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Cecil Moore wrote:
...
Not for an omniscient guru who already knows everything
and is therefore incapable of ever being wrong. :-)
...

Cecil:

Been there, done that ... :(

Regards,
JS

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Cecil, you don't have to postulate a non linear breakdown within the
dielectric to explain the transfer of energy from the charged particle
striking the surface of the insulation to the free electrons on the
wire... Capacitance will handle that nicely... As you stated, a
thicker insulator makes a quieter antenna under static conditions...
Capacity effect would seem to answer that...
If you don't like that, a charged particle striking the dielectric
surface suffers an abrupt change in motion... A charge changing motion
has it's own method of talking to us...
And, lastly, we have not roundly beaten the water droplet for dripping
off the antenna and taking a charge with it...
"Bartenner, I'll have one, hic, for the road."...
denny / k8do

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art wrote:
What I don't understand Tom is that Richard has a brain and yet he
stoops to this kind of behaviour which is usually the path of people
incapable of individual thought. The latter I sympathise with and do
not feel the need to respond to and ofcourse there is always the evil
person lurking around that is filled with hate.For my part I was
astonished as to how this group regarded the idea of a diiferent
antenna aproach which has now been accepted by better qualified people
that you find on this group. I have spoken to people who have known
Richard and all say the same thing he is discruntled with life and ..
well I wont go into that.But even as amateurs we are all interested in
antennas and when yet when one comes along it is rejected without one
iota of intelligent educational discussion or thought of delving into
just a cacaphony of insults from those who have mistaken anticipation
that all is known, at least with this group. Not everybody has the
opportunity of getting an education and many are not capable of
absorbing it thinking that they know everything that is important.
Ofcourse when you read about it you can always take the stance that Roy
takes i.e. I don't understand which can change later when it becomes
more fully understood. Amateur radio is a hobby for all types of people
mostly old guys angry at the thought of change or dying but that is not
a reason that thinking people can't get together and discuss a niche in
the hobby in the search of knoweledge knowing that knoweledge alone
does not lead to miraicles. Sometimes this group reminds me of a
statement I heard years ago.
"The sporadics are fighting again"
Art


onishedTom Donaly wrote:

art wrote:

. Art was


being an invidious pig and I called him on it.


snip and I was responding to an invidious pig
When he stops these snide attacks on me then things
like this wouldn't happen Richard declined my hand on
all this because he says he enjoyes it
So as somebody said I am not here to be a lump on a log
that people feel they must take a hack at. Tom you have
been around this group for a long time and know how Richard is
and I am determined not to be trashed into oblivion like CHIP
in the face of attacks from him , Roy and others.
You only have to go back a few posts to see
examples of his trash towards me and I will retaliate, anyway
I can until he stops..... His choice


73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH


Calm down, Art. Reg Edwards (PBUH) managed to stay in good humor
when he was the recipient of Richard's little bons mots, and you can
do at least as well as Reg in this regard. Chip managed to hold his own
without sinking to the level of a thirteen year old, and you can do that
too. (Although a few of Chip's alter egos were pretty far gone on the
puerile side.) You should emulate Cecil. He has the
hide of a Texas rhinoceros and never loses an argument (he never wins
one, either). As for your feelings about San Francisco, it's not like
you think it is, and even if it were, at your age no one's going to
ask you to play drop-the-soap no matter how eager you might be to
join the fun.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH


Hi Art,
One of the most difficult things in life to do, for those
blessed with a creative mind, is to learn how to communicate
ideas to those who are not similarly gifted. Your ideas are interesting,
but in order to appreciate them one has to learn to think in a
different manner with a different part of the brain than most
people are accustomed to using. You should be more pitying than
angry at those who don't understand. Just inventing something
isn't the end of the process. Explaining and defending are the
hard parts. You can do this better if you don't allow yourself to
be riled by those who don't agree with you.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

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So Art, I take it you are impling that people from San Francisco have
something to be ashamed of just because they are from their or even people
who visited there should be ashamed of having visited there. Whats your
problem with SF, its a wonderful city.


"art" wrote in message
oups.com...
I suppose if it fits you then you blend in and are accepted
I didn,t want to be accepted I suppose don't ask don't tell rules

Jimmie D wrote:
Funny I have a San Francisco T and NOBODY giggles at me when I wear it.
Maybe its not the shirt.



"art" wrote in message
oups.com...
I remember being stranded at Chicago O Hare airport
because of snow conditions so I wasted time by putting my baggage in a
cart and walked around. While doing this some people were giggling and
I didnt know why until I realised that I had donned a sweater to keep
warm and it had spread across the front
.............SAN FRANCISCO............
Do you think I went back and asked them why they was giggling?
I knew why..... so I took off the sweater and went for a nice cup of
coffe with a smile to myself. Would you like to have that sweater,? I
doubt it