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To bring antennas into the discussion:
Many years ago when a grad student working in the vicinity of, and
eating at the same table with, Grote Reber, he noted that the bean plant
wound itself in the opposite direction in Tasmania than in the US. (We
never left the meat plate in his vicinity.) While constructing new
instrumentation to measure low frequency radiation from space (housed in
beautiful cabinets that he made) using an antenna with directivity
determined by the relative thinness of the ionosphere in Tasmania, he tended
bean plants that he caused to grow the wrong way.
He published papers on the subject in 1960 and 1964. As I recall, one
finding was that yields increased if beans were caused to do what they do
not want to do.

So, at least two things arise from this: plants can do different things
in the two hemispheres and the ionosphere is "different" in the two
hemispheres.

The like of Grote the world is not likely to see again. His ability to
see significance in well known things was awesome. It only he had had a
publicist, he would have received a Nobel prize.

73, Mac N8TT

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It is a matter of scale.

The coriolis effect is weak and directly a function of distance.

Water in a sink is a tiny distance and the effect is miniscule.

On huge things like weather fronts, the coriolis effect is quite obvious.

Firing tables for long range artillery have corrections for the effect.


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"John Smith I" wrote in message
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Jimmie D wrote:

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I t doesnt happen, water swirling down the drain in different directionn
because you are in the southern or northern hemisphere is a myth.


Obviously you have a sink, you can prove it correct.

And, indeed, it is correct. Has to do with the oxygen molecules slight
magnetic force in interaction with the appropriate pole of the earth.

My goodness. Who would have guessed so many could benefit from a simple
high school physics course, and then an introduction to antennas?

JS


Cant prove it to nobody but myself, kitchen sink is a double and it is
different in both sinks. Please tell just which way you think it spins in
the northern hemisphere.


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Jimmie D wrote:
"John Smith I" wrote in message
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Jimmie D wrote:

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I t doesnt happen, water swirling down the drain in different directionn
because you are in the southern or northern hemisphere is a myth.

Obviously you have a sink, you can prove it correct.

And, indeed, it is correct. Has to do with the oxygen molecules slight
magnetic force in interaction with the appropriate pole of the earth.

My goodness. Who would have guessed so many could benefit from a simple
high school physics course, and then an introduction to antennas?

JS


Cant prove it to nobody but myself, kitchen sink is a double and it is
different in both sinks. Please tell just which way you think it spins in
the northern hemisphere.



Your location is obviously directly on the equator, and the "line"
passes directly between the double sinks.

Ain't science wunnerful? ;^)

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On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 02:13:10 -0500, "Jimmie D"
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"John Smith I" wrote in message
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Jimmie D wrote:

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I t doesnt happen, water swirling down the drain in different directionn
because you are in the southern or northern hemisphere is a myth.


Obviously you have a sink, you can prove it correct.

And, indeed, it is correct. Has to do with the oxygen molecules slight
magnetic force in interaction with the appropriate pole of the earth.

My goodness. Who would have guessed so many could benefit from a simple
high school physics course, and then an introduction to antennas?

JS


Cant prove it to nobody but myself, kitchen sink is a double and it is
different in both sinks. Please tell just which way you think it spins in
the northern hemisphere.

Perhaps it is time for all of us with flush toilets to activate the
them and report back?
John Ferrell W8CCW
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Firing tables for long range artillery have corrections for the
effect.


Cool - I didn't know that! It does stand to reason, giving the distances
and velocities involved.

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Firing tables for long range artillery have corrections for the
effect.


Cool - I didn't know that! It does stand to reason, giving the distances
and velocities involved.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -


As do ICBM's. Coreolis is alive and well and real!

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John Smith I wrote:
I know of NO ONE who claims to know FOR CERTAIN, EXACTLY why, this
happens or is able to offer conclusive proof ...


Here's what I was taught. In the Northern Hemisphere,
the Northernmost point in a body of water at rest is
moving slower than the Southernmost point. Consider
that the ocean water at the poles travels pi*zero miles
every 24 hours while the water at the equator travels
pi*8000 miles, i.e. about 1000 miles per hour. The extra
velocity of the Southernmost molecules is what gives the
counter-clockwise rotation of a fluid in the Northern
Hemisphere. In the Southern Hemisphere, the Southernmost
molecules are moving the fastest resulting in a clockwise
rotation.
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On Feb 22, 10:36 am, Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
I know of NO ONE who claims to know FOR CERTAIN, EXACTLY why, this
happens or is able to offer conclusive proof ...


Here's what I was taught. In the Northern Hemisphere,
the Northernmost point in a body of water at rest is
moving slower than the Southernmost point. Consider
that the ocean water at the poles travels pi*zero miles
every 24 hours while the water at the equator travels
pi*8000 miles, i.e. about 1000 miles per hour. The extra
velocity of the Southernmost molecules is what gives the
counter-clockwise rotation of a fluid in the Northern
Hemisphere. In the Southern Hemisphere, the Southernmost
molecules are moving the fastest resulting in a clockwise
rotation.
--
73, Cecil,http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


Sounds about like what my HS physics teacher told me, works great for
hurricains doesnt do a thing for toilet drains .(|)

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