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![]() Richard Clark wrote: On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 09:58:02 -0800, Jim Kelley wrote: , is how is it that you were able to ascertain that this heat energy was caused by energy that was reflected from the load rather than having come directly from the power supply within the source? In the theological sense, this predicates that power never becomes dissociated from "the source." That is ambiguous, isn't it? Is that to include the batteries behind the collector supply? The power supply charging the batteries? The power grid feeding the power supply? The generator driving the grid? The Coal firing the steam spinning the generator? The sun through photosynthesis growing plants to provide the coal? The previous supernova that seeded the cosmos by which coalescence formed the sun? ...and into an infinite regression to that previous supernova? The energy dissipated is computed from the Galactic Load Line. Sarcasm clearly noted, and surprisingly uncalled for. I'll try asking one more time. It is a simple metrology question: How were you able to directly ascertain that the heat being dissipated in the source was produced by energy being reflected from the load? Thanks, Jim, AC6XG |
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On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:27:36 -0800, Jim Kelley
wrote: Sarcasm clearly noted, and surprisingly uncalled for. Hi Jim, I responded in kind is all, you revealed a trap and I jumped into it with both feet. If that broke it, return it to the vendor for a refund. Is power/energy separable from its source? If this question is obnoxious, why did you raise the prospect? When it is generally accepted that our sources do not exhibit 50 Ohms source resistance/impedance, what resistance/impedance do they exhibit? If you don't have an answer, what was the purpose of this uninforming assertion? If these two questions have the trappings of sacrasm, I did not originate their discussion. And putting your mock-shock aside, they are part of the chain of denial you are adding links to, aren't they? 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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Richard Clark wrote:
Is power/energy separable from its source? What other point is there to attaching an antenna to a transmitter? 73, Jim AC6XG |
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On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:28:58 -0800, Jim Kelley
wrote: Richard Clark wrote: Is power/energy separable from its source? What other point is there to attaching an antenna to a transmitter? Hi Jim, I will take that as an affirmative. When it is generally accepted that our sources do not exhibit 50 Ohms source resistance/impedance, what resistance/impedance do they exhibit? 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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Richard Clark wrote:
When it is generally accepted that our sources do not exhibit 50 Ohms source resistance/impedance, what resistance/impedance do they exhibit? It doesn't matter. The net power supplied by the source is *always* the difference between the forward power and the incident reflected power *by definition*. The definition seems to assume that 100% of the incident reflected power is re-reflected *as if* a 100% re-reflection condition exists. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:36:12 -0600, Cecil Moore
wrote: Basically nothing. Richard Clark wrote: When it is generally accepted that our sources do not exhibit 50 Ohms source resistance/impedance, what resistance/impedance do they exhibit? To which I got no answers in stereo. Some may sense frustration to which I once asked how much relief I would need. Having already long anticipated a non-response (score 100% for accuracy in modeling); others may want to fumble rhetorically with equally uninformed responses. In anticipation of that I provide a multiple choice. Richard needs to take: 1. An aspirin; 2. A syringe of morphine; 3. Both of the above; 4. 50 Ohms of dissipation. 5. All of the above, except 3. 6. ____________ Now take that number, and divide it by the Sarcasm co-efficient. Plot this on a graph and draw an asymptote. You now have a diagram for a Gaussian Bundle. Find the Pointing Vector for this (it points to the same answer you picked in the multiple choice) to verify the authenticity of your newsreader's software design. ;-) 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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