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On 15 Mar, 17:35, John Smith I wrote:
Dave wrote:
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what prevents me from drawing an imaginary Gaussian boundary around my yagi?


No one to enforce the borders? And, then "illegals" creep in? grin

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Did you hear that mexican illegals are not arrested if they have less
than 50 lbs of weed when they cross the border? Apparently they are
growing it on such a wide scale in the National parks of the U.S. it
is uneconomical to bring in such small amounts. For American citizens
3 gramms is enough to put you inside. Go figure
Mexican Nationals/drivers in the U.S. also don't need amateur licenses
during the 6 month pilot plan
I think that if less than 50 lbs can be brought in without penalty
then all those now in prison should be let out to feed themselves.
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On 15 Mar, 17:35, John Smith I wrote:
Dave wrote:
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what prevents me from drawing an imaginary Gaussian boundary around my yagi?


No one to enforce the borders? And, then "illegals" creep in? grin

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Did you know that anybody can visit the U.S. on holiday can stay for
ever like mexicans. The U.S. government is too broke to deport them or
even arrest them. Polish people are not allowed a visa to visit
Chicago now for any reason as the Feds say they all just stay. Now
Chicago is a sanctuary city for Mexicans and the police protect them
from the Feds. Illinois expects 30,000 new arrivals from Mexico this
year and the buses are looking to accept pesos in the near future.When
I came to the U.S. they gave me a green card but during the time I was
required to carry it
nobody asked to have a look at it, that is why Mexicans are willing to
carry forgeries as everybody has forgotten what they look like. Our
local hospitals has had record admittances last year as illegal
immigrants are having anchor babies as soon as they can so we have to
build a new school every year to accommodate them. Word is in Europe
that the U.S, does not welcome Caucasians so few are even visiting on
holiday from
Western Europe. The message that you are either with us or you are
against us is sure having an effect in Western Europe, I wonder if it
will spread to ham radio.
Art
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art wrote:
On 15 Mar, 17:35, John Smith I wrote:
Dave wrote:
...
what prevents me from drawing an imaginary Gaussian boundary around my yagi?

No one to enforce the borders? And, then "illegals" creep in? grin

JS
--http://assemblywizard.tekcities.com


Did you know that anybody can visit the U.S. on holiday can stay for
ever like mexicans. The U.S. government is too broke to deport them or
even arrest them. Polish people are not allowed a visa to visit
Chicago now for any reason as the Feds say they all just stay. Now
Chicago is a sanctuary city for Mexicans and the police protect them
from the Feds. Illinois expects 30,000 new arrivals from Mexico this
year and the buses are looking to accept pesos in the near future.When
I came to the U.S. they gave me a green card but during the time I was
required to carry it
nobody asked to have a look at it, that is why Mexicans are willing to
carry forgeries as everybody has forgotten what they look like. Our
local hospitals has had record admittances last year as illegal
immigrants are having anchor babies as soon as they can so we have to
build a new school every year to accommodate them. Word is in Europe
that the U.S, does not welcome Caucasians so few are even visiting on
holiday from
Western Europe. The message that you are either with us or you are
against us is sure having an effect in Western Europe, I wonder if it
will spread to ham radio.
Art
Art


Yes, it is a nightmare, I have heard at some hospitals in so. calif.
that the birth rate in some hospitals is 80% illegal alien children. If
the tax payers are so free with their money, maybe they would like to
pay for my grand childrens' children to be born? Wonder if anyone
notices it is driving medical costs SKY HIGH???

Hey, it never hurts to ask! ROFLOL

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On 15 Mar, 18:45, John Smith I wrote:
art wrote:
On 15 Mar, 17:35, John Smith I wrote:
Dave wrote:
...
what prevents me from drawing an imaginary Gaussian boundary around my yagi?
No one to enforce the borders? And, then "illegals" creep in? grin


JS
--http://assemblywizard.tekcities.com


Did you know that anybody can visit the U.S. on holiday can stay for
ever like mexicans. The U.S. government is too broke to deport them or
even arrest them. Polish people are not allowed a visa to visit
Chicago now for any reason as the Feds say they all just stay. Now
Chicago is a sanctuary city for Mexicans and the police protect them
from the Feds. Illinois expects 30,000 new arrivals from Mexico this
year and the buses are looking to accept pesos in the near future.When
I came to the U.S. they gave me a green card but during the time I was
required to carry it
nobody asked to have a look at it, that is why Mexicans are willing to
carry forgeries as everybody has forgotten what they look like. Our
local hospitals has had record admittances last year as illegal
immigrants are having anchor babies as soon as they can so we have to
build a new school every year to accommodate them. Word is in Europe
that the U.S, does not welcome Caucasians so few are even visiting on
holiday from
Western Europe. The message that you are either with us or you are
against us is sure having an effect in Western Europe, I wonder if it
will spread to ham radio.
Art
Art


Yes, it is a nightmare, I have heard at some hospitals in so. calif.
that the birth rate in some hospitals is 80% illegal alien children. If
the tax payers are so free with their money, maybe they would like to
pay for my grand childrens' children to be born? Wonder if anyone
notices it is driving medical costs SKY HIGH???

Hey, it never hurts to ask! ROFLOL

JS
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Well the olympics are being held either in Chicago or Los Angeles
which should slow things down a bit. Mexico is not sending any teams
to compete as they say that all that can run, jump or swim are already
here
Art

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On Mar 15, 8:09 pm, "art" wrote:
On 15 Mar, 17:02, "JIMMIE" wrote:





On Mar 15, 7:12 pm, "art" wrote:


On 15 Mar, 15:29, "Dave" wrote:


"art" wrote in message


roups.com...


On 15 Mar, 14:47, "Dave" wrote:
"art" wrote in message


groups.com...


It is oftimes said that parasitic elements of a yagi absorb
radiatiation
and then reradiate half of what it received. Is this meaning that it
only absorbs half of the radiation applied in its direction and where
it
then reradiates 100% of its radiation? It apears to be a simple
question
depending how one looks at it in terms of efficiency which could mean
anything.
Now in my unreleased Gaussian antenna array there is no interaction
with respect to radiation as radiation cannot occur outside until the
enclosed border is breached.
On the face of it one then can assume that a yagi is not really
efficient depending how one uses terms that have a special definition
because of absorbed radiation.
Thoughts! Auguments!. Trashing, or what ever trips your trigger.
Just when you thought that Gaussian arrays would go away a thing like
this comes along,
go figure. ( Don't forget Pointings vector and what it implies.grin)
Art


what prevents me from drawing an imaginary Gaussian boundary around my
yagi?- Hide quoted text -


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A yagi cannot be in equilibrium because of parasitic elements.
A simple dipole can be in equilibrium and can be placed inside
an arbitary border.
Art


ok, take each parasitic element on the yagi, break it in the middle to turn
it into a 'dipole', add a voltage source set at 0v to drive it. now draw
your imaginary boundary. i have satisfied your requirements, now why is my
multi-dipole array not a gaussian array by your definition??- Hide quoted text -


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Then your definitionor or my definition is incorrect. Remember at the
cessation of time all movement of flux stops for the Gaussian logic to
be sustained. I would venture that if the "Q" of the resident dipoles
were varied then varience in polarity continues the movement of flux
after the cessacition of time.
Art- Hide quoted text -


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Art said "Remember at the
cessation of time all movement of flux stops.


When is this going to happen. If it is anytime soon I need to
seriously re-evaluate my retirement plans.((:))==


Jimmie- Hide quoted text -


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Jimmie you can't consider retirement if you are already brain dead
Art- Hide quoted text -

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Ooh, name calling, well how do you get time to stop? this is the seond
time you have mentioned it so I know it is not a typo.



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"art" wrote in message
ups.com...
On 15 Mar, 15:29, "Dave" wrote:
"art" wrote in message

oups.com...



On 15 Mar, 14:47, "Dave" wrote:
"art" wrote in message


groups.com...


It is oftimes said that parasitic elements of a yagi absorb
radiatiation
and then reradiate half of what it received. Is this meaning that it
only absorbs half of the radiation applied in its direction and
where
it
then reradiates 100% of its radiation? It apears to be a simple
question
depending how one looks at it in terms of efficiency which could
mean
anything.
Now in my unreleased Gaussian antenna array there is no interaction
with respect to radiation as radiation cannot occur outside until
the
enclosed border is breached.
On the face of it one then can assume that a yagi is not really
efficient depending how one uses terms that have a special
definition
because of absorbed radiation.
Thoughts! Auguments!. Trashing, or what ever trips your trigger.
Just when you thought that Gaussian arrays would go away a thing
like
this comes along,
go figure. ( Don't forget Pointings vector and what it implies.grin)
Art


what prevents me from drawing an imaginary Gaussian boundary around my
yagi?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


A yagi cannot be in equilibrium because of parasitic elements.
A simple dipole can be in equilibrium and can be placed inside
an arbitary border.
Art


ok, take each parasitic element on the yagi, break it in the middle to
turn
it into a 'dipole', add a voltage source set at 0v to drive it. now draw
your imaginary boundary. i have satisfied your requirements, now why is
my
multi-dipole array not a gaussian array by your definition??- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -


David,
You are obviously an immigrant to the U.K., Nigeria perhaps!
I see you have made over 116,000 posts just on usenet and that is just
counting one server, all in the search of a fight and goodness knows
how many aliases you have used every day.
How about providing one of your many amateur calls?


has it been that many posts? i'll bet you just searched for the alias i use
on here, which is a common anti-spam alias used by many posters. i use only
the one alias, though i did just recently switch isp's so the posting server
has changed, oh and i do occasionally post via news.microsoft.com for some
of their software development groups. if you really wanted to find out
who i was you would have found it already... its right there if you really
want it. every header (at least from this isp) has the real identity in it.



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On 16 Mar, 14:10, "Dave" wrote:
"art" wrote in message

ups.com...





On 15 Mar, 15:29, "Dave" wrote:
"art" wrote in message


groups.com...


On 15 Mar, 14:47, "Dave" wrote:
"art" wrote in message


groups.com...


It is oftimes said that parasitic elements of a yagi absorb
radiatiation
and then reradiate half of what it received. Is this meaning that it
only absorbs half of the radiation applied in its direction and
where
it
then reradiates 100% of its radiation? It apears to be a simple
question
depending how one looks at it in terms of efficiency which could
mean
anything.
Now in my unreleased Gaussian antenna array there is no interaction
with respect to radiation as radiation cannot occur outside until
the
enclosed border is breached.
On the face of it one then can assume that a yagi is not really
efficient depending how one uses terms that have a special
definition
because of absorbed radiation.
Thoughts! Auguments!. Trashing, or what ever trips your trigger.
Just when you thought that Gaussian arrays would go away a thing
like
this comes along,
go figure. ( Don't forget Pointings vector and what it implies.grin)
Art


what prevents me from drawing an imaginary Gaussian boundary around my
yagi?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


A yagi cannot be in equilibrium because of parasitic elements.
A simple dipole can be in equilibrium and can be placed inside
an arbitary border.
Art


ok, take each parasitic element on the yagi, break it in the middle to
turn
it into a 'dipole', add a voltage source set at 0v to drive it. now draw
your imaginary boundary. i have satisfied your requirements, now why is
my
multi-dipole array not a gaussian array by your definition??- Hide quoted
text -


- Show quoted text -


David,
You are obviously an immigrant to the U.K., Nigeria perhaps!
I see you have made over 116,000 posts just on usenet and that is just
counting one server, all in the search of a fight and goodness knows
how many aliases you have used every day.
How about providing one of your many amateur calls?


has it been that many posts? i'll bet you just searched for the alias i use
on here, which is a common anti-spam alias used by many posters. i use only
the one alias, though i did just recently switch isp's so the posting server
has changed, oh and i do occasionally post via news.microsoft.com for some
of their software development groups. if you really wanted to find out
who i was you would have found it already... its right there if you really
want it. every header (at least from this isp) has the real identity in it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I was putting you about 100 to 140 miles North by Northwest of London.
I suppose that would be towards the Derby area .

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On 16 Mar 2007 14:41:48 -0700, "art" wrote:

if you really wanted to find out
who i was you would have found it already... its right there if you really
want it. every header (at least from this isp) has the real identity in it.


I was putting you about 100 to 140 miles North by Northwest of London.
I suppose that would be towards the Derby area .


Hi Art,

Brooklyn. Not even close if you said New London, Conneticut.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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