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Cecil Moore[_2_] May 11th 07 12:08 AM

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Gene Fuller wrote:
What rug? What are you talking about?


Oh yeah, when all else fails, feign ignorance.
Old diversion, doesn't work.
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Cecil Moore[_2_] May 11th 07 12:10 AM

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Gene Fuller wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
Hint: If waves cause currents that in turn, cause
re-radiation, then Richard has proved your, "waves
don't cause radiation", assertion to be false.


Back to playing the moron role?


Nope, just back to quoting the classical rules of logic.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Cecil Moore[_2_] May 11th 07 12:19 AM

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Gene Fuller wrote:
Back to playing the moron role?


I forgot to recommend, "Logic, an Introduction", by Ruby.

Is there a lot of current in your free space world?


No, and that is exactly the point. How do your rules-
of-thumb current short-cuts work when there is no
current? Hint: Maybe Maxwell's equations?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Jim Kelley May 11th 07 12:31 AM

Phase Shift through a 75m Texas Bugcatcher Coil
 


Cecil Moore wrote:

Yep, I'm afraid that Kraus was wrong to a certain degree.


Ordinarily I'd be inclined to call it the other way to be honest,
Cecil. What equations are you using for both cases? Perhaps you
wouldn't mind showing your work.

73, Jim AC6XG





Cecil Moore[_2_] May 11th 07 01:10 AM

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Jim Kelley wrote:
Ordinarily I'd be inclined to call it the other way to be honest,
Cecil. What equations are you using for both cases? Perhaps you
wouldn't mind showing your work.


I have explained it multiple times before, Jim, over the
past few years. Please forgive me for getting tired of
explaining the basics of physics to people with less than
average IQs. Maybe I will be in a better mood tomorrow.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Richard Clark May 11th 07 03:10 AM

Phase Shift through a 75m Texas Bugcatcher Coil
 
On 10 May 2007 14:13:15 -0700, art wrote:

where does the energy
that is not reradiated go ?


Hi Art,

Into the load.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard Clark May 11th 07 03:12 AM

Phase Shift through a 75m Texas Bugcatcher Coil
 
On Thu, 10 May 2007 10:55:47 -0700, Jim Kelley
wrote:



Richard Clark wrote:
On 9 May 2007 23:29:28 -0700, Jim Kelley wrote:


Ok. But what I was asking is what does any of that have to do with a
bolt?



The travel of one turn of a point at the radius (helical distance) in
relation to the travel of the same point in the depth (the linear
displacement after 360 degrees of the turn) is related to pitch. A
simple mechanical relationship. This is the bolt.


Thanks so much, Richard. I'm going to keep this on file somewhere in
case I ever forget what a bolt is. :-)


Hi Jim,

So it's the only thing in this thread that makes sense....

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard Clark May 11th 07 03:14 AM

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On 10 May 2007 12:32:53 -0700, wrote:

do you now how to explain this so normal people can understand?


Ah! The triumph of hope over experience.

Sorry Herbert,

Your questions are just too hard for this crew. Stick with asking
about squiggly lines and they will flock to answer.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Cecil Moore[_2_] May 11th 07 02:33 PM

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Jim Kelley wrote:
Perhaps you wouldn't mind showing your work.


I have added some new material to my web page
concerning this subject.

http://www.w5dxp.com/current2.htm
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

John Smith I May 11th 07 03:44 PM

Phase Shift through a 75m Texas Bugcatcher Coil
 
wrote:
do you now how to explain this so normal people can understand?


If traveling waves are used to measure phase shift though the coil in
question reliable data is obtained on phase shift.

If standing waves are used, the data is flawed.

Well, you asked for simple now, didn't you?

Regards,
JS


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