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Cecil Moore wrote:
Michael Coslo wrote:
A Different server or ISP. An EZ solution......

I should have requested a Linux server, not a
Microsoft server. :-) But the problem has been
solved.

Good to see it solved, Cecil. I much prefer to run things off a Linux
server, seems to be less problems overall. I've always hosted in Linux,
but My son went with Windows for a while, and eventually changed to
Linux after nothing he wanted to do worked.


- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

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Owen Duffy wrote:
If I click on Cecil's link, I get a 404 error: file not found which is a
strong indicator the file is not there, or has incorrect permissions,
probably the former.

Not to pick on Owen as an individual, but rather on gurus
in general:

This is an example of the combination of arrogance and
ignorance often exhibited by gurus. As a matter of fact,
the most probable explanation was that a file type had
not been defined on a Microsoft server. Ignorance of
Microsoft servers was the problem, not that the file
was not there.

But don't hold your breath for: "Thanks, I was wrong
and I learned something today." from any guru.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

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"Jeff" wrote in
. com:


" Apart from special processing specified for some files or file
types
(extensions), the server just sends the document back in a response
under http headers (some of which may be chosen based on extension -
MIME type association in the server's config files.

I suspect that it is this part that is going wrong, there is no
association for a .ez extension and the server is responding with a
404 error. Hence the request for a MIME type.

You obviously don't know how web servers, HTTP, and browsers work.

Owen

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Michael Coslo wrote in news:f1tahl$1218$1
@f04n12.cac.psu.edu:

Cecil Moore wrote:
Michael Coslo wrote:
A Different server or ISP. An EZ solution......

I should have requested a Linux server, not a
Microsoft server. :-) But the problem has been
solved.

Good to see it solved, Cecil. I much prefer to run things off a Linux
server, seems to be less problems overall. I've always hosted in Linux,
but My son went with Windows for a while, and eventually changed to
Linux after nothing he wanted to do worked.

Is the issue the operating system, or the web server. In other words, is
it Windows Vs Linux, or IIS vs Apache? (You can run Apache on Windows.)

It is a long time since I looked after IIS, but then it wasn't a patch on
Apache (if you will pardon the pun... an it is a pun as the name Apache
(with the stange spelling) is a shortening of "a patchy server",
reflecting its origins).

Owen

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Owen Duffy wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in
I suspect that it is this part that is going wrong, there is no
association for a .ez extension and the server is responding with a
404 error. Hence the request for a MIME type.

You obviously don't know how web servers, HTTP, and browsers work.

Your ignorance and arrogance are showing again, Owen.
Jeff obviously knows exactly how Microsoft servers work.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

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Owen Duffy wrote:
Is the issue the operating system, or the web server.

Apparently, it was a Microsoft operating system problem.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

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On Wed, 09 May 2007 21:50:34 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

Owen Duffy wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in
I suspect that it is this part that is going wrong, there is no
association for a .ez extension and the server is responding with a
404 error. Hence the request for a MIME type.

"web servers are configured to report a MIME type of text/plain
for unknown content types"

You obviously don't know how web servers, HTTP, and browsers work.

Your ignorance and arrogance are showing again, Owen.

And this is from someone who has never written a line of code for
desinging a server.

Jeff obviously knows exactly how Microsoft servers work.

So, the server is asking (which is what request means) the client for
the MIME type? What a yuk. And using M$ as the gold standard for
providing non-HTTP compliant servers? Yuk² Quite literally, M$ does
not know how HTTP servers are supposed to work.

"MIME is currently defined in RFCs 2045, 2046, 2047, 2048, and
2049 and registered values for MIME types are available in IANA |
MIME Media Types. The HTTP specification defines a superset of
MIME which is used to describe the media types used on the web."

M$ does not conform.

Source:
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs...ver_MIME_Types

From one who has written many servers - myself.

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Richard Clark wrote:
And this is from someone who has never written a line of code for
desinging a server.

It would never occur to me that a line of code to make
a server stop singing was required. How did you stumble
upon that pressing need?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

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On Wed, 09 May 2007 22:23:06 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

How did you stumble
upon that pressing need?

Only a pants-presser would be worried about that.

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Richard Clark wrote in
:

....
Jeff obviously knows exactly how Microsoft servers work.

So, the server is asking (which is what request means) the client for
the MIME type?

I doubt it.

What a yuk. And using M$ as the gold standard for
providing non-HTTP compliant servers? Yuk² Quite literally, M$ does
not know how HTTP servers are supposed to work.

"MIME is currently defined in RFCs 2045, 2046, 2047, 2048, and
2049 and registered values for MIME types are available in IANA |
MIME Media Types. The HTTP specification defines a superset of
MIME which is used to describe the media types used on the web."

While some are stressing about getting IANA registration of the ez
extension, it already is, and to another application, and its type is
application/andrew-inset.

So, many web servers (using the IANA MIME media type list) will serve the
file up with a HTTP Content-Type of application/andrew-inset . That won't
affect most users, because their browser will not have any defined action
for that application type.

On a good web server, one could override that MIME association for the
file, files, directory or tree... but it shouldn't be necessary.

Owen

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Cecil Moore wrote:

Maybe the moral is not to choose a Microsoft server? :-)

I would hope that if an extension is registered with IANA and mime typed
that microchit would provide a timely update to inform it's servers how
to process it. There have been instances in the past of incorrectly
handled mime types able to carry/load malware onto ones' system (JPEG
files being exploited, one example.) Probably the cause of microchits
paranoia over mime types ...

However, windows can be told how to handle a specific mime type
(extension) to where when one clicks upon it on a web site the program
to handle it (open?) is automatically invoked and the file ends up being
opened by the proper application. (an installer for the original
program can edit the registry to accomplish this also--something Roy may
wish to do in the future.)

This page gives a hint on how to do some of the above:

http://filext.com/faq/manage_file_extensions.php

I have no allegiance to either windows or linux ... if you are a linux
guru--linux is great. If you are something less and you are free and
fast with using your computer, you probably will end up with a root kit
on your system and someone recording every key stroke you make and with
your system violated. Linux takes for granted you are a
state-of-the-art user--microchit attempts to "mother you" and keep you
protected from the boogey man ... it just does a rather poor job of it
.... I use a dual boot system ...

Regards,
JS

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Cecil Moore wrote in
:

John - KD5YI wrote:
I suspect the second link above does not actually exist. My browser
says "The page cannot be found" which has nothing to do with the file
type (.ez).

Seems it has everything to do with file type .EZ since
every other extension works just fine. If I simply change
the coil505.EZ extension to coil505.bin and leave the file
just as it is, everything works fine. Try it for yourself.

http://w5dxp.com/coil505.bin

The server is reporting that the .EZ file cannot be found even
though it actually exists on the server. It's the Microsoft
server that has the problem. The Linux server works just
fine. Apparently, the Microsoft server doesn't recognize
.EZ as a valid file type. If I ZIP the .EZ file, it also
handles it just fine.

Coming in late on this one again. The question was raised about Windows
vs linux servers. Like just about anything Windows based, there is
"always something" requiring a big workaround, or even if it is something
that the server *will* handle, there is always something that you have to
do to get it to work right.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA, happily administering an OSX server that just
chugs away -

...But willing to concede the superiority of all things Windows, as
long as I don't have to use them.... ;^)

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Cecil Moore wrote in news:a8Q%h.7406$2v1.2345
@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net:

as the solution gets implemented. Are we going to
ask everyone to rename antenna.bin to antenna.ez
before they can use it with EZNEC? Why does qsl.net
handle .EZ files properly and 1and1.com doesn't?
As a simple user, this should NOT be my problem.

Your server folks need to get their act together and perform the
appropriate workaraound (I assume that the need for mime type of a file is
some sort of security thing) Time to switch to another server.

Some outfits get so hung up on what they think is security thst they
punish the good folk. I belonged to a list that onetime rejected a post I
made because it contained the word "link" in it.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

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On Thu, 10 May 2007 21:51:44 -0500, Mike Coslo
wrote:

Cecil Moore wrote in news:a8Q%h.7406$2v1.2345
:

as the solution gets implemented. Are we going to
ask everyone to rename antenna.bin to antenna.ez
before they can use it with EZNEC? Why does qsl.net
handle .EZ files properly and 1and1.com doesn't?
As a simple user, this should NOT be my problem.

Your server folks need to get their act together and perform the
appropriate workaraound (I assume that the need for mime type of a file is
some sort of security thing) Time to switch to another server.

Some outfits get so hung up on what they think is security thst they
punish the good folk. I belonged to a list that onetime rejected a post I
made because it contained the word "link" in it.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

Mike, Mike, before you fly completely off the handle, 1and1 offers
their customers a choice of Mickysoft's server or Linux. Cecil chose
Micksoft. I also use 1and1 as my HSP and chose Linux. Cecil had
problems I didn't.

73,
Danny, K6MHE

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On Thu, 10 May 2007 20:14:19 -0700, Danny Richardson
wrote:

Cecil had problems I didn't.

Anyone who has worked in software will tell you:
"They aren't problems,
they are undocumented features."

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

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In message , Richard Clark
writes
On Thu, 10 May 2007 20:14:19 -0700, Danny Richardson
wrote:

Cecil had problems I didn't.

Anyone who has worked in software will tell you:
"They aren't problems,
they are undocumented features."

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Management says that 'There are no problems - there are only
opportunities.'
Ian.
--

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Richard Clark wrote:

On Thu, 10 May 2007 20:14:19 -0700, Danny Richardson
wrote:


Cecil had problems I didn't.


Anyone who has worked in software will tell you:
"They aren't problems,
they are undocumented features."

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

And Microsoft has lots more of them than anyone else.

After reading some of the stories from the inside of the "engineering"
of Windows products, it's not surprising.

tom
K0TAR

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Tom Ring wrote in news:46451474$0$21260$39cecf19
@news.twtelecom.net:

Richard Clark wrote:

On Thu, 10 May 2007 20:14:19 -0700, Danny Richardson
wrote:


Cecil had problems I didn't.


Anyone who has worked in software will tell you:
"They aren't problems,
they are undocumented features."

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

And Microsoft has lots more of them than anyone else.

After reading some of the stories from the inside of the "engineering"
of Windows products, it's not surprising.

One of the coolest undocumented Windows features I've ever seen was
about 2 weeks ago when I updated my Gateway pivot monitor software, my
monitor quit working correctly (it actually went to some bizzare upside
down mode and at only one resolution) but to top it off, my Visual Studio
quit working.

Hats off to a system that can perform that little trick.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

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Ian Jackson wrote in
:

Management says that 'There are no problems - there are only
opportunities.'

It keeps computer support people in jobs.....

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

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Danny Richardson wrote in
:

Mike, Mike, before you fly completely off the handle, 1and1 offers
their customers a choice of Mickysoft's server or Linux. Cecil chose
Micksoft. I also use 1and1 as my HSP and chose Linux. Cecil had
problems I didn't.

I thought I raised that point in another post regarding my son's ISP. Once
he switched from Windows server to Linux, his problems went away.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -