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You June 9th 07 07:04 PM

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In article ,
John Smith I wrote:

Hydrogen can be separated from oxygen with a simple plastic membrane,
the pores in this membrane are engineered to a size which will allow
hydrogen atoms to pass freely while blocking the oxygen atoms. The
oxygen "byproduct" is a sale-able one.


You need to go back to High School Chemistry Class and relearn all
you missed about Hydrogen Oxygen Bonding, and the Energy required
to break those specific Chemical Bonds. It isn't going to happen
in a simple Plastic Membrane, especially without some form of external
energy input. Where do you guys come up with this stuff???
Idiots R Us???

John Smith I June 9th 07 07:23 PM

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You wrote:

...
You need to go back to High School Chemistry Class and relearn all
you missed about Hydrogen Oxygen Bonding, and the Energy required
to break those specific Chemical Bonds. It isn't going to happen
in a simple Plastic Membrane, especially without some form of external
energy input. Where do you guys come up with this stuff???
Idiots R Us???


You need to learn how to focus and digest written material in a sane,
logical and meaningful way.

Hydrogen gas can be separated from oxygen gas with the plastic membrane,
as stated.

What? Did you sudden get thirsty and focus on water, idiot!

JS

Dave June 9th 07 07:45 PM

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"You" wrote in message
...
In article ,
John Smith I wrote:

Hydrogen can be separated from oxygen with a simple plastic membrane,
the pores in this membrane are engineered to a size which will allow
hydrogen atoms to pass freely while blocking the oxygen atoms. The
oxygen "byproduct" is a sale-able one.


You need to go back to High School Chemistry Class and relearn all
you missed about Hydrogen Oxygen Bonding, and the Energy required
to break those specific Chemical Bonds. It isn't going to happen
in a simple Plastic Membrane, especially without some form of external
energy input. Where do you guys come up with this stuff???
Idiots R Us???


actually with what you quoted it is perfectly correct... in that quote he
isn't saying he's breaking down water into hydrogen and oxygen, just
separating the atoms. a gaseous mixture of hydrogen and oxygen could be
separated this way.



Roger (K8RI) June 9th 07 07:51 PM

Water burns!
 
On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 07:54:16 -0700, John Smith I
wrote:

Jimmie D wrote:

[stuff removed]
When I was a teenager a truck caarying H2 came into town and the driver
decided to eat at a local restaraunt. Unknown to him his tank had a leak. I
saw the heat disortion above the flame and called the fire department. When
they got there they started chewing my butt because it want on fire, then
one of the firemen walked into the flame.

Jimmie



Hmmm, aliens having a hot-dog roast, or just stupid firemen, possibly an
urban myth?


Typically the Hydrogen flame is quite difficult to see unless
contaminants make it visible. It's a very pale blue that is almost
invisible.

JS


John Smith I June 9th 07 08:18 PM

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Dave wrote:

...
actually with what you quoted it is perfectly correct... in that quote he
...


Yeah, it is always wise to pay attention to the previous post, that the
post in question is responding too ... that way you will appear as an
idiot less frequently ... you live, you learn ...

JS

John Smith I June 9th 07 08:19 PM

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Roger (K8RI) wrote:

...
Typically the Hydrogen flame is quite difficult to see unless
contaminants make it visible. It's a very pale blue that is almost
invisible.
JS


Absolutely, a real danger to those with no sensitivity to heat ...

JS

Jimmie D June 9th 07 10:04 PM

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"Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 07:54:16 -0700, John Smith I
wrote:

Jimmie D wrote:

[stuff removed]
When I was a teenager a truck caarying H2 came into town and the driver
decided to eat at a local restaraunt. Unknown to him his tank had a
leak. I
saw the heat disortion above the flame and called the fire department.
When
they got there they started chewing my butt because it want on fire,
then
one of the firemen walked into the flame.

Jimmie



Hmmm, aliens having a hot-dog roast, or just stupid firemen, possibly an
urban myth?


Typically the Hydrogen flame is quite difficult to see unless
contaminants make it visible. It's a very pale blue that is almost
invisible.

JS


Definately not an urban myth and the firmen wernt stupid. They just didnt
know much about fighting fires especially something like this. Just your
typical small town volunteer fire department of the 60s. 40s vintage fire
truck, no special clothing or protective equipment. Siren goes off, drive to
the one red light in town and wait to see which way the firetruck goes.


Jimmie



Tom Ring June 11th 07 03:08 AM

Water burns!
 
Cecil Moore wrote:
Roger (K8RI) wrote:
A look, yes, but you can't violate the rules of physics.


A couple of centuries ago, one of those "rules of physics"
was that light always travels in a straight line. Do you
think that "rule of physics" has been violated? :-)


No violation Cecil, space bends, not light.

tom
K0TAR

Cecil Moore[_2_] June 11th 07 03:32 AM

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Tom Ring wrote:
No violation Cecil, space bends, not light.


Is a straight line through bent space still a
straight line? :-)
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

John Smith I June 11th 07 10:27 AM

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Cecil Moore wrote:
Tom Ring wrote:
No violation Cecil, space bends, not light.


Is a straight line through bent space still a
straight line? :-)


Hey, wait a minute, is that a straight answer? grin

Regards,
JS


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