On Jun 17, 11:07 pm, art wrote:
On 17 Jun, 19:34, Mike Coslo wrote:





"Jimmie D" wrote :

I did nt see any qualitative data given
in the test results except saying that the short antennas performed
nearly as well as the full size antennas. Hell, Ive heard 20db down
reported as "nearly as well" or as "comparable with". Im sure the
numbers had to be available so why werent they posted.

Heh, heh. Jimmie youze is throwin' 'round them scientifical terms
like "nearly as well" and "comparable to". Heck I'ze gettin' all
confoozlated. But not so confusticated that I'll not get me wonna them
mircle antennies!

Seriously though, you are right. There has been precious little
real data on this antenna since the first press release in '04.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

Look at the patent request to obtain the basics.
The testing station tested it with a set up that is tracable
to normal standard antennas. Results therefor can be compared against
a standard antennas with confidence. The testing was done by a
independent source so a review of the results shows what you get.
The patent was accepted by the PTO so on the surface it would
appear that there is something new here even if the experts are
baying at the moon ahead of time knowing that all is known about
antennas. It would be interesting if the independent test reports
were included in the patent request which would infere that the PTO
confirmed the propriety of the tests, usually by being present.
Note the antenna was designed using a propriety computor program
which the range test confirmed after the fact.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

BIG DEAL, I can stick up a 6ft radiator over a good ground sytem like
the one in the article add the appropriate inductance and capacitance
to make it resonant ant match it to the feed and most people will be
impressed by how well it works. Take that same antenna ,stick it in my
back yard using the best ground system as will be practical there
whith a feedline that is also practical with my backyard installation
and that antenna is going to suck bilge water. The fact is if you have
the real estate and the financial means for the kind og ground system
you need to make a short antenna work as well as the claims made in
the article you might as weel go ahead and erect a full size antenna.


Jimmie

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 05:04:18 -0700, JIMMIE
wrote:


BIG DEAL, I can stick up a 6ft radiator over a good ground sytem like
the one in the article add the appropriate inductance and capacitance
to make it resonant ant match it to the feed and most people will be
impressed by how well it works. Take that same antenna ,stick it in my
back yard using the best ground system as will be practical there
whith a feedline that is also practical with my backyard installation
and that antenna is going to suck bilge water. The fact is if you have
the real estate and the financial means for the kind og ground system
you need to make a short antenna work as well as the claims made in
the article you might as weel go ahead and erect a full size antenna.


Jimmie


Why erect a full sized 160 meter vertical IF a 40 foot vertical can do
as well?

--
73 for now
Buck, N4PGW

www.lumpuckeroo.com

"Small - broadband - efficient: pick any two."

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:32:40 -0400, Buck
wrote:

Why erect a full sized 160 meter vertical IF a 40 foot vertical can do
as well?

Why indeed if you live in a sal****er marsh.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

"Buck" wrote in message
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 05:04:18 -0700, JIMMIE
wrote:


BIG DEAL, I can stick up a 6ft radiator over a good ground sytem like
the one in the article add the appropriate inductance and capacitance
to make it resonant ant match it to the feed and most people will be
impressed by how well it works. Take that same antenna ,stick it in my
back yard using the best ground system as will be practical there
whith a feedline that is also practical with my backyard installation
and that antenna is going to suck bilge water. The fact is if you have
the real estate and the financial means for the kind og ground system
you need to make a short antenna work as well as the claims made in
the article you might as weel go ahead and erect a full size antenna.


Jimmie


Why erect a full sized 160 meter vertical IF a 40 foot vertical can do
as well?

--
73 for now
Buck, N4PGW

www.lumpuckeroo.com

"Small - broadband - efficient: pick any two."

If I had the real estate and the ground sytem I would probably erect a 1/2
wl or a 5/8.