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John Smith I August 18th 07 08:21 PM

Quantum Tunneling
 
Cecil Moore wrote:

... Even a
Buckyball made from many carbon atoms can do the
same thing. :-0


Cecil:

Do those Buckyballs come in larger sizes? My wife plays tennis, yanno? :-)

Regards,
JS

John Smith I August 18th 07 08:29 PM

Quantum Tunneling
 
Cecil Moore wrote:

...
People who say, "Everything is already known
about __________" have removed any doubt about
who is the idiot. :-)


I am in total agreement, it is unfathomable, to me, how any could call
that shot different.

But here, in the rec.radio.amateur.antenna.twilight.zone ng, just the
EXACT OPPOSITE seems true.

Someone is an idiot, no doubt. If it is me, I certainly hope I can see
this shortly and stop making such an idiot out of myself!

If it is the others, I just hope they stop, shortly ...

Regards,
JS

Richard Clark August 18th 07 09:33 PM

Quantum Tunneling
 
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:18:19 -0700, John Smith I
wrote:

Let's see, a link to a National Enquirer story headlines a story about
a surgeon who grafts a pig's head onto Paris Hilton, and the poster


Now you have my interest!

Did this alleged operation result in Paris being any more attractive to
50+ year old males, such as myself?


Sounds like you are already attracted. The question is, are you ready
to go under the same surgeon's knife to enhance your appeal to her?

Now, there's a test of theory and acclaim being bundled under the
mantle of "news releases!" Volunteer for elective surgery and
elevate this story above the fold in USA Today.

As for antennas, I see none of the dewy-eyed crowd of worshipers
daring to tread the turf of building/modeling/discussing the necessary
glass prism to commemorate this momentous announcement of FTL DXing.
Can we even hope their zeal in this well-spring of faith extends to
pushing a credit card across the display case to buy a magazine about
one?

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Michael Coslo August 20th 07 02:55 PM

Quantum Tunneling
 
John Smith I wrote:
Michael Coslo wrote:

...
I read the original work too, and came to much the same
conclusion. I'd put more stock in zero point energy than this little
experiment allowing us to get somewhere before we start.

The telegraph's article is a lot more satisfying though, if
incorrect.


- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -


And just what is your Ph.D. in? I just want to know so when I quote
they know I am just not quoting some guy with an opinion ...



Donchya know, I graduated in the same field you did.


- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

Michael Coslo August 20th 07 03:09 PM

Quantum Tunneling
 
Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
It is obivious they are nit-picking in an endeavor to make you appear
as an idiot;


People who say, "Everything is already known
about __________" have removed any doubt about
who is the idiot. :-)


Sure enough, Cecil. I do think that continual suspension of disbelief is
in the same boat however.

It is a slippery slope some practice between healthy skepticism, and
trying to force rational people to keep their mouths shut about any new
theory no matter how crackpot it is.

When taken to its extreme, the practitioner ends up believing every
alternative theory, and is skeptical toward all established ones.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

John Smith I August 20th 07 05:06 PM

Quantum Tunneling
 
Michael Coslo wrote:

...
Donchya know, I graduated in the same field you did.


- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -


If such were true, it would be detectable in the working of your mind,
through your text--all I see is a little man who considers everything
bad and impossible ... in my world, such people are rare.

Regards,
JS

John Smith I August 20th 07 05:15 PM

Quantum Tunneling
 
Michael Coslo wrote:

...
When taken to its extreme, the practitioner ends up believing every
alternative theory, and is skeptical toward all established ones.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -


I would have loved to have you and I present during the first Wright
brothers experiments in flight, the first research into developing
masers and lasers (buck rogers ray gun, really), the first reach into
interplanetary exploration, etc., etc., etc.

I could have prophesied your stand and arguments perfectly, they would
simply have appeared as they do now ...

The least you could do is fake an open mind ... just to fool us now and
then.

Regards,
JS

Michael Coslo August 20th 07 06:49 PM

Quantum Tunneling
 
John Smith I wrote:
Michael Coslo wrote:

...
When taken to its extreme, the practitioner ends up believing every
alternative theory, and is skeptical toward all established ones.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -


I would have loved to have you and I present during the first Wright
brothers experiments in flight, the first research into developing
masers and lasers (buck rogers ray gun, really), the first reach into
interplanetary exploration, etc., etc., etc.



I could have prophesied your stand and arguments perfectly, they would
simply have appeared as they do now ...

The least you could do is fake an open mind ... just to fool us now and
then.



Why don't we move this into the realm of discussion rather that you
noting that you know exactly what I am going to do or say (some might
thing that is evidence itself of a closed mind)


What do you think about this Superluminal speed experiment in comparison
to the Smarandache hypothesis?

Tunneling time in itself is expected to be zero in superluminal
phenomena. Interesting.

F. Hund in 1927 noticed Tunneling in 1927. It is some pretty old
physics. It is also a natural outgrowth of quantum mechanics. It is
needed to explain how the sun works, and even the inflationary universe.

Your thoughts?



- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -



John Smith I August 20th 07 07:14 PM

Quantum Tunneling
 
Michael Coslo wrote:

...
What do you think about this Superluminal speed experiment in comparison
to the Smarandache hypothesis?

Tunneling time in itself is expected to be zero in superluminal
phenomena. Interesting.

F. Hund in 1927 noticed Tunneling in 1927. It is some pretty old
physics. It is also a natural outgrowth of quantum mechanics. It is
needed to explain how the sun works, and even the inflationary universe.

Your thoughts?



- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -


Isn't it quite obvious, it is too early to settle on "hard facts."

Indeed, I have made no bones about my belief(s), at a future date the
ether will come into play in all this, something we are simply ignoring
at this date.

It seems all are aware when Einstein denied the existence of the ether
(luminal ether really), and few are aware when he reneged and made
provision for it (since it simply passes though the sides of any bottle
which we can construct to contain it, its' makeup remains a mystery) ...
you are too impatient, you want all the answers to the
universe--immediately. Beware, in your haste you may choose wrong.

I have found great enjoyment in pondering "its'" remaining mysteries ...
the CERN project will shed more light upon all of this ... one can
always hope it will "provide all the answers", however, I think,
probably not.

If this all seems rather cryptic and evasive, such is the very nature of
this beast.

Regards,
JS




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