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![]() "Cecil Moore" wrote in message ... John Doe wrote: 1] The 160m whip assy that I originally planned to use is CENTER-LOADED which I think is better than a base loaded whip? Yep, and a center-loaded 40 ft. long wire is better than a center-loaded assy shorter than 40 ft. on 160m. There is no perfect substitute for length and height on 160m. 2] If I decide to go with a 30 or 40 foot length of bare wire up the tree, How long should the TOPHAT wires be? As long as you can make them and as many as you can manage. Best to check the resonant frequency during the installation process but you are not likely to make the top hat too big on 160m with a 1/12 wavelength vertical wire. Resonating the system using only a large top hat would be ideal. Of course, you will be dealing with a low feedpoint resistance, too low to be matched without a ~1:4 unun or equivalent. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com Could I use the whip configuration as the center load coil, and just add some more wire to the top end of the whip and more wire to the bottom end?? 73's |
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John Doe wrote:
Could I use the whip configuration as the center load coil, and just add some more wire to the top end of the whip and more wire to the bottom end?? Using more wire would make for a more efficient antenna but you would need to short out some turns on the 160m coil which causes a lowering of the coil Q. Ideally, you would just use (wind) a lower inductance coil, one with the exact amount of inductance needed. With a large top hat and more vertical wire, the size of the coil is considerably lessened. But shorting out the unneeded turns on a coil is a time honored tradition. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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![]() "Cecil Moore" wrote in message ... John Doe wrote: Could I use the whip configuration as the center load coil, and just add some more wire to the top end of the whip and more wire to the bottom end?? Using more wire would make for a more efficient antenna but you would need to short out some turns on the 160m coil which causes a lowering of the coil Q. Ideally, you would just use (wind) a lower inductance coil, one with the exact amount of inductance needed. With a large top hat and more vertical wire, the size of the coil is considerably lessened. But shorting out the unneeded turns on a coil is a time honored tradition. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com 1 more question - Instead of using either the fixed 160m stick w/whip (stinger), or the 30 - 40 ft of wire, what do you think about using a Screwdriver Antenna at the top of the tree and running either a counterpoise or radials?? 73's |
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On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 12:56:12 -0400, "John Doe"
wrote: what do you think about using a Screwdriver Antenna at the top of the tree and running either a counterpoise or radials?? Put the screwdriver half to 2/3rds way up, top load, and lay out whatever radials you can get away with. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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John Doe wrote:
1 more question - Instead of using either the fixed 160m stick w/whip (stinger), or the 30 - 40 ft of wire, what do you think about using a Screwdriver Antenna at the top of the tree and running either a counterpoise or radials?? The screwdriver coil can certainly be used in the middle of the 40 foot vertical wire to tune the system to resonance. Bury some radials and you are in business. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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