On 29 Aug, 12:53, John Smith wrote:
Ok. You might ask me, "Why do you laugh at people discussing antennas
emitting photons?

And, I would answer:

Photon emissions from an antenna element(s) seems difficult, at best, to
visualize (no pun intended.)

Consider a 1/2 inch dia. single element antenna (monopole?) If the
thing is emitting photons, one would think the photons are being emitted
equally around the elements circumference.

Well, now flatten that 1/2 dia rod into a very thin ribbon--however, the
snip

The photon/wave properties of rf still remains a mystery ... and proof
hard to come by.

Regards,
JS

Come on John Study Gauss and all becomes clear
Art

art wrote:

...
Come on John Study Gauss and all becomes clear
Art


Clear?

Hmmm. Sure you don't strive to over simplify a bit? But, ok. When I
lay down a bar neodymium magnet, cover it with a sheet of paper and
sprinkle iron powder upon it, to see the lines of force--what are those
lines depicting? Are those photons? Are those waves? Are you
completely sure they are only of static properties--and some type of
movement is not occurring just outside my range of vision and ability to
measure? Are they contained within a media I cannot see and measure?

It is quite easy for me to generate those same lines of force with an
electric energies' flow though a conductor. And, the reverse is also
easy to accomplish, I can cause an electric energy to be generated by
moving a conductor though these lines of force.

I suspect, in the future, it will be easy to switch matter and energies'
states back in forth, with similar ease.

But, at this point, clear? Surely your vision is much better than my
own ...

And, if I am unable to get my mind completely wrapped around this
problem, to be able to claim I understand this with precision--how would
I suddenly be able to make claims about the much more complex?

But, if you have the time, enlighten me, what is gravities relationship
to magnetism? Is there a reason their properties share similar
characteristics/behaviors? Know of any "iron powder tricks" to allow me
to see gravities lines of force?

I think gauss is a link in a chain--not a complete answer in itself, and
a chain which is still missing links ...

Regards,
JS

On 2 Sep, 07:31, John Smith wrote:
art wrote:

...

Come on John Study Gauss and all becomes clear
Art

Clear?

Hmmm. Sure you don't strive to over simplify a bit? But, ok. When I
lay down a bar neodymium magnet, cover it with a sheet of paper and
sprinkle iron powder upon it, to see the lines of force--what are those
lines depicting? Are those photons? Are those waves? Are you
completely sure they are only of static properties--and some type of
movement is not occurring just outside my range of vision and ability to
measure? Are they contained within a media I cannot see and measure?

It is quite easy for me to generate those same lines of force with an
electric energies' flow though a conductor. And, the reverse is also
easy to accomplish, I can cause an electric energy to be generated by
moving a conductor though these lines of force.

I suspect, in the future, it will be easy to switch matter and energies'
states back in forth, with similar ease.

But, at this point, clear? Surely your vision is much better than my
own ...

And, if I am unable to get my mind completely wrapped around this
problem, to be able to claim I understand this with precision--how would
I suddenly be able to make claims about the much more complex?

But, if you have the time, enlighten me, what is gravities relationship
to magnetism? Is there a reason their properties share similar
characteristics/behaviors? Know of any "iron powder tricks" to allow me
to see gravities lines of force?

I think gauss is a link in a chain--not a complete answer in itself, and
a chain which is still missing links ...

Regards,
JS

John,
The moment one introduces equilibrium into the equation it
becomes a whole new ball game. I asked you to do something
with an antenna design, remember. Because therein
lies the clue to all this instead of talking around the houses.
Talking has proved nothing so try my way!
Today I am going to put my 160 meter antenna
onto the top of my tower so that I can try to get the impedance higher
tho it is useable at present on the ground.(Resonated at 20 ohms)
I made one for 80M and it was 60 ohms and the gain was undeniable.
I think only a 160M antenna will get believers so I will use one this
winter
on the bands. Yes I said bands (plural)
Nobody has done this before and I am sharing it with you.
In the next week or so I will attach it to a rotator
to see what the directional pattern is. (Actually I have two styles of
this
new antenna made).
If you did as I asked you may well have that next step that you talk
about.
Seeing is believing so why not take a look for your self.
Send me an Email if you hit a problem. I am sharing it with you purely
to put a lot of these experts in their place so you will have
what they can't have or want. You certainly will be closer to derive
the answer for yourself
Art

art wrote:

...
If you did as I asked you may well have that next step that you talk
about.
Seeing is believing so why not take a look for your self.
...
Art


Art:

Sorry, but that is/would not be easy for me at present. I have moved
into a smaller place. I am getting too old to maintain a large
yard/home, etc.--even my antenna experiments are on a shrinking scale.
Plus, I do more communications via IRC, instant messaging, email, news
posting, video chat, cell phone, etc. than I ever did on amateur bands
.... a sign of the times, perhaps.

I have been focused in a much different direction--small, stealth
antennas are the mode of the day here--I attempt to stay 10-100 watts,
just local traffic with a handful of friends.

Bought a new ford explorer and am not even going to bother moving the
rig to it, besides, I have to bring the antenna in if I park the car on
the street--cell phone is just too easy. Indeed, the XYL is favoring a
3 bedroom modular in a park with gated security--all cement--no yard--I
may end up giving in to her wishes. The new area we have moved into is
not without drug/gang/graffiti/ethnic-diversity problems--my own fault
(graffiti on the car/fence/house, tires slashed and windows smashed if
you leave the car outside at night, stabbing in a park just blocks away,
etc.) ... even the nicer areas of town are five bedrooms with five
different families of unknown ethnic origin occupying them--frequent
marijuana growing busts. :-(

Geesh, I have gotten old and the world has changed--my kingdom for a few
good neighbors ... at least at this location I have high speed DSL!
(was using clearwire at old place and signal was poor, I had to "hack"
the clearwire modem for an external antenna)

I will be looking forward for any information about your endeavors ...

Regards,
JS

On 2 Sep, 09:45, John Smith wrote:
art wrote:

...

If you did as I asked you may well have that next step that you talk
about.
Seeing is believing so why not take a look for your self.
...
Art

Art:

Sorry, but that is/would not be easy for me at present. I have moved
into a smaller place. I am getting too old to maintain a large
yard/home, etc.--even my antenna experiments are on a shrinking scale.
Plus, I do more communications via IRC, instant messaging, email, news
posting, video chat, cell phone, etc. than I ever did on amateur bands
... a sign of the times, perhaps.

I have been focused in a much different direction--small, stealth
antennas are the mode of the day here--I attempt to stay 10-100 watts,
just local traffic with a handful of friends.

Bought a new ford explorer and am not even going to bother moving the
rig to it, besides, I have to bring the antenna in if I park the car on
the street--cell phone is just too easy. Indeed, the XYL is favoring a
3 bedroom modular in a park with gated security--all cement--no yard--I
may end up giving in to her wishes. The new area we have moved into is
not without drug/gang/graffiti/ethnic-diversity problems--my own fault
(graffiti on the car/fence/house, tires slashed and windows smashed if
you leave the car outside at night, stabbing in a park just blocks away,
etc.) ... even the nicer areas of town are five bedrooms with five
different families of unknown ethnic origin occupying them--frequent
marijuana growing busts. :-(

Geesh, I have gotten old and the world has changed--my kingdom for a few
good neighbors ... at least at this location I have high speed DSL!
(was using clearwire at old place and signal was poor, I had to "hack"
the clearwire modem for an external antenna)

I will be looking forward for any information about your endeavors ...

Regards,
JS

I'll get it to you
Art

art wrote:

...
I'll get it to you
Art


I got it--pun intended.

It should be becoming obvious that I have read Einstein--and believed.

Indeed, what other force can we produce upon the ether to achieve our
communications? EM fields strike/push/pull/influence the ethers'
strings ...

Those lines of force, seen in iron filings/powder, show "stress" of the
ether--any engineer worth his salt will recognize these "stress lines"
in a media ... in this case "gravitational ether"--an un-ponder-able media.

Regards,
JS

On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 08:56:48 -0700, art wrote:

The moment one introduces equilibrium into the equation

Hi Arthur,

Ever wondered how the Latins used the root 'equ' in those two words?

The Latins also introduced the sugar into their sucrose
(and did not introduce nutrition into nutrasweet);
and discovered petrol in our petroleum;
and poured aqua into his aquarium;
and played euchre with the eucharist;
and laughed at the saccharine in this sacrament;
and slipped librium into someone's library....

Language be whack 2 what wrote in ebonics o' tennas.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard Clark wrote:
and poured aqua into his aquarium;

and performed hysterectomies to avoid hysteria.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com