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Frnak McKenney wrote:
Hm. Wonder if anyone has built an antenna whose polarization shifts to "best match" the incoming signal? (No, not _this_ weekend! grin!) Yes, such things have been built. There are some French researchers who built an adaptive combiner that combined multiple polarizations, and also did the processing to allow using both the ordinary and extraordinary ray, and substantially improved link reliability on 1000km skywave paths. A minor update: It seems that I was _mis_tuning my antenna, adjusting it for the strongest signal (highest stack of LEDs lit). Over the past two days either I've finally tuned it _correctly_ or I've done that _and_ the signal has improved. Whatever the cause(s), I can now -- at times, in fact for an hour at a time -- hear the tocks fairly clearly and even understand the voice. (Who knew the announcer's phrase for UTC "Coordinated Universal Time"?). UTC is not an acronym. It's a madeup identifier that matches neither the English (Coordinated Universal Time) or the French (T U C.. I won't even attempt to figure out what it is..). These sorts of international metrology things have all sorts of such negotiated compromises in them, stemming all the way back to the Prime Meridian being in Greenwich, but measuring in meters. |
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:06:49 -0700, Jim Lux
wrote: hear the tocks fairly clearly and even understand the voice. (Who knew the announcer's phrase for UTC "Coordinated Universal Time"?). UTC is not an acronym. It's a madeup identifier that matches neither the English (Coordinated Universal Time) or the French (T U C.. I won't even attempt to figure out what it is..). Hi All, In fact, UTC is an acronym (already anticipated by Frnak and explicitly stated every minute). It is but one of several, this one being rather genericized (because any longer would force a lot of talking, and minute passes by pretty quickly). The others would include: UTC(NIST), UT1; and the academic UT0, and UT2. The reason for the initials order is that there is an hidden comma. Universal Time, Coordinated. Wikipedia reports this as an erroneous expansion, but Wikipedia wasn't there in my Metrology classes (a couple dozen miles from NBS) where we worked with these NBS standards. It wasn't there when (1974) I performed the second leap second on my Cesium Beam Standard which was calibrated through WWVB (taking about half an hour, part of which was waiting during the roughly 15 minute intervals between TOCs). My antenna was so far away (on the fantail of the ship in another "time zone"), that I had to slip the time by 100nS. Knowing that Arthur only reads his own threads, I won't have to anticipate his rejection of the following efficiency reports for a non-gaussian antenna. From NIST (the people who know efficiency) about their 60KHz antenna system: "Each antenna is a top loaded monopole consisting of four 122-m towers arranged in a diamond shape. A system of cables, often called a capacitance hat or top hat, is suspended between the four towers. This top hat is electrically isolated from the towers, and is electrically connected to a downlead suspended from the center of the top hat. The downlead serves as the radiating element. "Ideally, an efficient antenna system requires a radiating element that is at least one-quarter wavelength long. At 60 kHz, this becomes difficult. The wavelength is 5000 m, so a one-quarter wavelength antenna would be 1250 m tall, or about 10 times the height of the WWVB antenna towers. As a compromise, some of the missing length was added horizontally to the top hats of this vertical dipole, and the downlead of each antenna is terminated at its own helix house under the top hats. Each helix house contains a large inductor to cancel the capacitance of the short antenna and a variometer (variable inductor) to tune the antenna system. "Using two transmitters and two antennas allows the station to be more efficient. As mentioned earlier, the WWVB antennas are physically much smaller than one quarter wavelength. As the length of a vertical radiator becomes shorter compared to wavelength, the efficiency of the antenna goes down. In other words, it requires more and more transmitter power to increase the effective radiated power. The north antenna system at WWVB has an efficiency of about 50.6%, and the south antenna has an efficiency of about 57.5%. However, the combined efficiency of the two antennas is about 65%. As a result, each transmitter only has to produce a forward power of about 38 kW for WWVB to produce its effective radiated power of 50 kW." 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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Richard Clark wrote:
Knowing that Arthur only reads his own threads, I won't have to anticipate his rejection of the following efficiency reports for a non-gaussian antenna. From NIST (the people who know efficiency) about their 60KHz antenna system: "Each antenna is a top loaded monopole consisting of four 122-m towers arranged in a diamond shape. A system of cables, often called a capacitance hat or top hat, is suspended between the four towers. This top hat is electrically isolated from the towers, and is electrically connected to a downlead suspended from the center of the top hat. The downlead serves as the radiating element. "Ideally, an efficient antenna system requires a radiating element that is at least one-quarter wavelength long. At 60 kHz, this becomes difficult. The wavelength is 5000 m, so a one-quarter wavelength antenna would be 1250 m tall, or about 10 times the height of the WWVB antenna towers. As a compromise, some of the missing length was added horizontally to the top hats of this vertical dipole, and the downlead of each antenna is terminated at its own helix house under the top hats. Each helix house contains a large inductor to cancel the capacitance of the short antenna and a variometer (variable inductor) to tune the antenna system. "Using two transmitters and two antennas allows the station to be more efficient. As mentioned earlier, the WWVB antennas are physically much smaller than one quarter wavelength. As the length of a vertical radiator becomes shorter compared to wavelength, the efficiency of the antenna goes down. In other words, it requires more and more transmitter power to increase the effective radiated power. The north antenna system at WWVB has an efficiency of about 50.6%, and the south antenna has an efficiency of about 57.5%. However, the combined efficiency of the two antennas is about 65%. As a result, each transmitter only has to produce a forward power of about 38 kW for WWVB to produce its effective radiated power of 50 kW." 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC The NIST folks could probably increase the efficiency to greater than 90% if they dug a large pit to temporarily store the decaying electrons. All of those dying electrons lying on the ground tend to discourage the active electrons from working as hard as they could. The efficiency could be raised to nearly 100% if the two helices were wound in opposite directions. That would provide the best shot at equilibrium. 73, Gene W4SZ |
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:48:48 GMT, Gene Fuller
wrote: However, the combined efficiency of the two antennas is about 65%. As a result, each transmitter only has to produce a forward power of about 38 kW for WWVB to produce its effective radiated power of 50 kW." The NIST folks could probably increase the efficiency to greater than 90% if they dug a large pit to temporarily store the decaying electrons. All of those dying electrons lying on the ground tend to discourage the active electrons from working as hard as they could. The efficiency could be raised to nearly 100% if the two helices were wound in opposite directions. That would provide the best shot at equilibrium. Hi Gene, You shave points too close. They could achieve 130% efficiency if they simply tapped into the current return on the inside of the wire. Arthur's 3dB here and 3dB there, if you use enough wire, then you are beginning to talk about GAIN! Also, Fort Collins is a higher altitude than Podunk Illinois, so impedance is less than 377 Ohms too! High gain, maybe 129% efficient. ***** irony mode off ******** Load resistance seen by the transmitters is roughly 0.85 Ohm transformed to 50 Ohms. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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Richard Clark wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:06:49 -0700, Jim Lux wrote: hear the tocks fairly clearly and even understand the voice. (Who knew the announcer's phrase for UTC "Coordinated Universal Time"?). UTC is not an acronym. It's a madeup identifier that matches neither the English (Coordinated Universal Time) or the French (T U C.. I won't even attempt to figure out what it is..). Hi All, In fact, UTC is an acronym (already anticipated by Frnak and explicitly stated every minute). It is but one of several, this one being rather genericized (because any longer would force a lot of talking, and minute passes by pretty quickly). The others would include: UTC(NIST), UT1; and the academic UT0, and UT2. Au contraire... while UT1, UT0, and UT2 are, in fact, acronyms of a sort, primarily based on astronomical time, this is not the case for UTC.. the coordination has to do with matching up UT and TAI (atomic) time.. all those leap seconds, etc. As one online source puts it: The (Bureau Internationale de l'Heure) BIH was charged with the task of monitoring and maintaining the program and introduced the term Temps Universel Coordinné or Coordinated Universal Time for the coordinated time scale in 1964. BIH is the predecessor of the current BIPM (who seem to have a problem with the standard kilo losing mass) http://www.bipm.org/ or, for more information: http://syrte.obspm.fr/journees2004/PDF/Arias2.pdf which says: The name of Coordinated Universal Time UTC appeared in CCIR documents in the early 60s. One might also seek a paper from 1964, by Guinot. (who was a time guy at the BIH back then) A paper by Dennis McCarthy at USNO on "Evolution of Time Scales" mentions in Section 6 that: the term "Coordinated Universal Time" was introduced in the 1950s to designate a time scale in which the adjustments to quartz crystal clocks were coordinated among participating laboratories in the US and UK. A more recent paper by Guinot says: "Until 1965, the more or less common scale for emission of signals, which had received spontaneously the name of Coordinated Universal Time (UTC), had not been strictly defined." The reason for the initials order is that there is an hidden comma. Universal Time, Coordinated. Funny, thing, though, that if one searches the literature of the time for that particular sequence of words, it never occurs.. Given that Coordinated Universal Time existed well before UTC, I suspect that the comma thing is a post hoc creation. Wikipedia reports this as an erroneous expansion, but Wikipedia wasn't there in my Metrology classes (a couple dozen miles from NBS) where we worked with these NBS standards. It wasn't there when (1974) I performed the second leap second on my Cesium Beam Standard which was calibrated through WWVB (taking about half an hour, part of which was waiting during the roughly 15 minute intervals between TOCs). My antenna was so far away (on the fantail of the ship in another "time zone"), that I had to slip the time by 100nS. |
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Jim Lux wrote:
Richard Clark wrote: The reason for the initials order is that there is an hidden comma. Universal Time, Coordinated. Funny, thing, though, that if one searches the literature of the time for that particular sequence of words, it never occurs.. Given that Coordinated Universal Time existed well before UTC, I suspect that the comma thing is a post hoc creation. Not everything is English, folks. UTC is for Universale Temps Coordinaire. No comma is implied or needed because in French, an adjective follows the word it modifies, with very few exceptions. Roy Lewallen, W7EL |
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Roy Lewallen wrote in
: Not everything is English, folks. UTC is for Universale Temps Coordinaire. No comma is implied or needed because in French, an adjective follows the word it modifies, with very few exceptions. Then wouldn't it be Temps Universale Coordinaire? Owen |
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Owen Duffy wrote:
Roy Lewallen wrote in : Not everything is English, folks. UTC is for Universale Temps Coordinaire. No comma is implied or needed because in French, an adjective follows the word it modifies, with very few exceptions. Then wouldn't it be Temps Universale Coordinaire? Good point. This should be reported to the French language police! Roy Lewallen, W7EL |
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Roy Lewallen wrote in
: Owen Duffy wrote: Roy Lewallen wrote in : Not everything is English, folks. UTC is for Universale Temps Coordinaire. No comma is implied or needed because in French, an adjective follows the word it modifies, with very few exceptions. Then wouldn't it be Temps Universale Coordinaire? Good point. This should be reported to the French language police! Roy Lewallen, W7EL Roy, I think that as others have posted, it is neither English nor French, but a *******isation that doesn't concede either language to be the better for expressing the meaning. The diplomacy aspect of striking standards no doubt! Owen |
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:43:53 -0700, Jim Lux
wrote: The reason for the initials order is that there is an hidden comma. Universal Time, Coordinated. Funny, thing, though, that if one searches the literature of the time for that particular sequence of words, it never occurs.. You are writing to one who read the literature - at that time. My experience is not from arm chair history 101. UTC was arrived at as a compromise between the French (naturally) and the "rest of the world" (what else?). My bona fides are documented too: two diplomas from the only Metrology school in the United States - at that time. Time in service: with training in calibration and maintenance of the HP Cesium Beam standard, and VLF subsystem - at that time. I also lived through the great switch-over from cycles to hertz, and GMT to Zulu - at that time (or slightly before... I wasn't looking at the clock that day). I can flood this page with 250 references that employ the strict usage of "Universal Time Coordinated" "Universal Time, Coordinated" or "Universal Time (Coordinated)" and specifically 35 of them printed before 1967. With google it takes more time to cut and paste than actually find them. A short list includes: Title 15 1971 Code of Federal Regulations By United States Office of the Federal Register (1971) "... the Universal Time Coordinated (UTC) system' as recommended by the Bureau International de l'Heure (bill). The carrier offset currently is minus 300 ..." Meteorological and Geoastrophysical Abstracts By American Meteorological Society (1960) International Aerospace Abstracts By American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics Technical Information Service, United States National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Institute of the Aerospace Sciences Technical Information Service (1961) Proceedings of the IEEE. By Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (1963) Scientific and Technical Aerospace Reports By United States. National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Scientific and Technical Information Division, United States National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Scientific and Technical Information Office, NASA Scientific and Technical Information Facility, United States National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Scientific and Technical Information Branch, NASA Center for AeroSpace Information, United States. National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Office of Scientific and Technical Information (1963) Navigation Dictionary By United States Naval Oceanographic Office (1969) New Scientist By EBSCO Publishing (1971) Basic Electronic Instrument Handbook By Clyde F. Coombs (1972) Newer titles: UPI Style Book & Guide to Newswriting By Harold Martin, Bruce Cook Dictionnaire des sciences et techniques du pétrole By Magdeleine Moureau, Gerald Brace Acronyms, Initialisms & Abbreviations Dictionary By Ellen T. Crowley GPS Satellite Surveying By Alfred Leick All of 10 minutes (give or take). Familiar with any service acronyms like BFD? 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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