w_tom wrote:
On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, scooterspal wrote:

At the time I looked into my needs I was directed to read the NEC
codebook... articles 800, 810, 820 and 830 that deal with communications
wiring.


NEC is about wiring for human safety. However that ground wire is
also installed for lightning protection - from a direct strike. Those
who fail to first learn numbers will post only their feelings. That 6
AWG is sufficient to earth a direct lightning strike and still remain
intact.

... consider that a bare 18 AWG (1 mm diameter) copper wire, in
air, normally will conduct at least 10 amperes safely, with very low
self-heating temperature rise. If the current slowly rises, the
temperature will increase until the melting temperature of 1065 C
(1950 F) is achieved at about 83 A. This same temperature could
be reached "instantly" by an 8x20 s pulse at a current of 61 kA.


Above numbers are from the front page of a professional engineering
publication (Electrical Engineering Times) of 1 Oct 2007. That 6
AWG can be expected to conduct 200,000 amps which is ten times more
than current from the typically lightning bolt.

Sort of true..
One can find the equations at http://home.earthlink.net/~jimlux/hv/fuses.htm

Onderdonk's equation takes into account the time course of the pulse,
and is probably more relevant here. AWG16 for a 10 microsecond pulse
melts at 12.6 kA. AWG6 is 100 times the size, so one might expect 1.26
MA fusing current.

HOWEVER.. in a fast pulse, the current is carried only in the surface of
the conductor, which Onderdonk's and Preece's equations don't deal with,
nor does the simple approximation in EETimes.

Also, for fast high current pulses, the magnetic fields are important:
a) because of the forces on the conductor which tend to deform it and b)
because of the effects of inductance.


Note also that the code also allows oddball stuff like AWG17 copperclad
steel for the grounding conductor. I surmise that the sizes are chosen
more for mechanical ruggedness than for current carrying capacity.


It is true, however, that a short length of AWG6 can carry a typical
stroke current without fusing or failing.

... consider that a bare 18 AWG (1 mm diameter) copper wire, in
air, normally will conduct at least 10 amperes safely, with very low
self-heating temperature rise. If the current slowly rises, the
temperature will increase until the melting temperature of 1065 C
(1950 F) is achieved at about 83 A. This same temperature could
be reached "instantly" by an 8x20 s pulse at a current of 61 kA.



Above numbers are from the front page of a professional engineering
publication (Electrical Engineering Times) of 1 Oct 2007. That 6
AWG can be expected to conduct 200,000 amps which is ten times more
than current from the typically lightning bolt.

I searched for this issue of EETimes and couldn't find the reference.
Have you an author's name?

On Nov 12, 11:58 am, Jim Lux wrote:
I searched for this issue of EETimes and couldn't find the reference.
Have you an author's name?

EE Times of 1 Oct and 8 Oct 2007. Kaufmann
http://www.planetanalog.com/showArti...leID=201807127

Jim Lux wrote:
w_tom wrote:

On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, scooterspal wrote:

At the time I looked into my needs I was directed to read the NEC
codebook... articles 800, 810, 820 and 830 that deal with communications
wiring.



NEC is about wiring for human safety. However that ground wire is
also installed for lightning protection - from a direct strike. Those
who fail to first learn numbers will post only their feelings. That 6
AWG is sufficient to earth a direct lightning strike and still remain
intact.

... consider that a bare 18 AWG (1 mm diameter) copper wire, in
air, normally will conduct at least 10 amperes safely, with very low
self-heating temperature rise. If the current slowly rises, the
temperature will increase until the melting temperature of 1065 C
(1950 F) is achieved at about 83 A. This same temperature could
be reached "instantly" by an 8x20 s pulse at a current of 61 kA.



Above numbers are from the front page of a professional engineering
publication (Electrical Engineering Times) of 1 Oct 2007. That 6
AWG can be expected to conduct 200,000 amps which is ten times more
than current from the typically lightning bolt.


http://www.planetanalog.com/features...leID=201807127

note that the author also speaks about the mechanical force issues with
the transient current. (And cites my website for lightning data, which
is kind of cool)..

Jim