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Cecil Moore wrote:

Mark Keith wrote:
If you are using the vertical for long haul, the increased received
noise is a non issue.

Actually, that's when an s-7 noise level is the biggest issue. Most
long haul signals are below s-7.

The signals will override the noise. IE: the
noise might be 2 s units higher, but the signal increase over the low
dipole will likely be more than that. The vertical still wins overall.

Bottom line: Verticals are essentially useless in Madisonville, TX and,
to the best of my knowledge, all hams here are forced to use horizontally
polarized antennas. Anyone who wants a nice 33 foot long vertical, come
on over and haul it away for free. Drilling out the pop rivets allows
collapsing it to six feet long.

Why don't you keep the vertical and just use it for transmitting when
working DX? You could still use the horizontal antenna for receiving.

Alternatively you could put up another noise antenna with poor distance
capabilities but good response to the locally-generated noise, and
combine the signals from it and the good vertical for reception, so as
to reduce the local noise without greatly reducing the incoming DX
signal strength.

David, ex-W8EZE, who remembers working ZLs and VKs from Ohio with very
low power on 80 CW while using a vertical

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David Ryeburn

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