LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #39   Report Post  
Old December 15th 07, 02:58 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by RadioBanter: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,521
Default Standing Wave Phase

Keith Dysart wrote:
On Dec 14, 11:17 am, Cecil Moore wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
Stubs like this one are easily modeled with EZNEC.

In fact, here it is:

http://www.w5dxp.com/stub_dip.EZ


So how much energy is stored in the stub?

Compared to the 100 J dissipated each second?


You are still comparing apples and oranges.

Why not compare it to the 6000 joules dissipated
each minute? Or the 360,000 joules dissipated each
hour? Or the 8+ megajoules dissipated each day?

The length of time that we need to use for a fair
comparison is the length of time it takes the forward
energy to propagate from one end of the stub to the
other. That time is about 62.63 ns for a 4 MHz 1/4WL
stub, or 6.263E-8 seconds.

100 joules/sec times 6.263E-8 seconds is
6.263E-6 joules or 6.263 microjoules lost to
radiation. That's 6.263 microjoules per 62.63 ns
so the power remains the same.

The forward power is about 31 microjoules per
62.63 ns. The reflected power is about 25
microjoules per 62.63 ns.

The forward energy is about five time the radiated
energy. The reflected energy is about four times
the radiated energy. That's why the standing-wave
current completely swamps the traveling-wave current
such that it is extremely difficult to use that
current for phase measurements.

Make the lossless stub one second long plus 1/4WL
and then recalculate the energy stored in the stub.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Standing wave on feeders David Antenna 12 May 21st 07 05:22 AM
Dipole with standing wave - what happens to reflected wave? David Antenna 25 September 6th 06 01:39 PM
Standing Waves (and Impedance) W. Watson Antenna 83 December 30th 05 03:48 AM
The Tower still standing ???? joey Antenna 5 September 26th 05 07:07 PM
Imaginary Standing Waves? Richard Fry Antenna 6 November 22nd 03 09:39 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:54 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 RadioBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Radio"

 

Copyright © 2017