On 20 Dec, 13:41, Dave Heil wrote:
art wrote:
On 20 Dec, 12:29, Richard Clark wrote:
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:03:23 -0800 (PST), art
wrote:

For those that feel that mechanical laws of Newton cannot be used with
respech to electrical subjects( ala Roy) here is a chance for you to
prove your point.
Hi Arthur,

Newton's law:
F = M · A
these FMA terms a
F is force in Newton;
M is mass in kilogram;
A is acceleration in meter / second / second.

We can compute the force on a 10 meter long, 10 kilogram antenna
accelerated by earth's gravity field:
F = 10 kilogram · 9.8 · meter / second / second
or (reduced):
98 kilogram · meter / second / second

When we add 100 Watts of power (for however long), it is clear that
Mass doesn't change. Or perhaps you can tell us how much.

When we add 100 Watts of power (for however long), it is clear that
Acceleration due to gravity doesn't change. Or perhaps you can tell
us how much.

There are only two variables to find Force in Newton's laws. How much
does 100 Watts change Mass or Gravity? I really don't expect you can
answer that because it is too simple: one or both numbers provided
above will be different, that is all. Can you give us something as
specific as I have? In other words, for 100 Watts applied to a 10
meter long, 10 kilogram antenna, will its Mass change to
11 kilogram
or
9 kilogram?
Or will gravity change to
9 · meter / second / second
or
8 · meter / second / second?

Only one or two very specific numbers have to shift here. Can you
tell us which or how much? This is, after all, your topic, your math,
your profession, and your chance to prove your point.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

No

...he replied, "I cannot."

Art leaves the leapfrogging in knowledge to future generations.

Dave K8MN- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If you want to get 'by' then by all means read all the technical books
that reflect the times, that makes you a follower.
If you want to go beyond the books then you have to do the research
and
that makes you a leader. If you place your research in front of a
panel
of experts in the field and then get accepted, it then has a place in
future books thus providing a stepping stone for those that follow.
This newsgroup is for followers of present day books.

By the way, "no" does not equate to "cannot" in any language
It only equates for those who wish to jump the Grand Canyon in two
strides.

art wrote:
On 20 Dec, 13:41, Dave Heil wrote:
art wrote:
On 20 Dec, 12:29, Richard Clark wrote:
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:03:23 -0800 (PST), art
wrote:
For those that feel that mechanical laws of Newton cannot be used with
respech to electrical subjects( ala Roy) here is a chance for you to
prove your point.
Hi Arthur,
Newton's law:
F = M · A
these FMA terms a
F is force in Newton;
M is mass in kilogram;
A is acceleration in meter / second / second.
We can compute the force on a 10 meter long, 10 kilogram antenna
accelerated by earth's gravity field:
F = 10 kilogram · 9.8 · meter / second / second
or (reduced):
98 kilogram · meter / second / second
When we add 100 Watts of power (for however long), it is clear that
Mass doesn't change. Or perhaps you can tell us how much.
When we add 100 Watts of power (for however long), it is clear that
Acceleration due to gravity doesn't change. Or perhaps you can tell
us how much.
There are only two variables to find Force in Newton's laws. How much
does 100 Watts change Mass or Gravity? I really don't expect you can
answer that because it is too simple: one or both numbers provided
above will be different, that is all. Can you give us something as
specific as I have? In other words, for 100 Watts applied to a 10
meter long, 10 kilogram antenna, will its Mass change to
11 kilogram
or
9 kilogram?
Or will gravity change to
9 · meter / second / second
or
8 · meter / second / second?
Only one or two very specific numbers have to shift here. Can you
tell us which or how much? This is, after all, your topic, your math,
your profession, and your chance to prove your point.
73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
No
...he replied, "I cannot."

Art leaves the leapfrogging in knowledge to future generations.

Dave K8MN- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If you want to get 'by' then by all means read all the technical books
that reflect the times, that makes you a follower.
If you want to go beyond the books then you have to do the research
and
that makes you a leader.

So, here's your chance to lead, Art. You've been offered a precious
opportunity to enlighten those reading this newsgroup. You've declined.

If you place your research in front of a
panel
of experts in the field and then get accepted, it then has a place in
future books thus providing a stepping stone for those that follow.

What "panel of experts" has accepted your research, Art?

This newsgroup is for followers of present day books.

Then, pray tell, what is a superior being such as yourself doing here
among the followers?

By the way, "no" does not equate to "cannot" in any language
It only equates for those who wish to jump the Grand Canyon in two
strides.

I didn't write anything about the word equating. I added words to it.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
art wrote:
On 20 Dec, 13:41, Dave Heil wrote:
art wrote:
On 20 Dec, 12:29, Richard Clark wrote:
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:03:23 -0800 (PST), art
wrote:
For those that feel that mechanical laws of Newton cannot be used
with
respech to electrical subjects( ala Roy) here is a chance for you to
prove your point.
Hi Arthur,
Newton's law:
F = M · A
these FMA terms a
F is force in Newton;
M is mass in kilogram;
A is acceleration in meter / second / second.
We can compute the force on a 10 meter long, 10 kilogram antenna
accelerated by earth's gravity field:
F = 10 kilogram · 9.8 · meter / second / second
or (reduced):
98 kilogram · meter / second / second
When we add 100 Watts of power (for however long), it is clear that
Mass doesn't change. Or perhaps you can tell us how much.
When we add 100 Watts of power (for however long), it is clear that
Acceleration due to gravity doesn't change. Or perhaps you can tell
us how much.
There are only two variables to find Force in Newton's laws. How much
does 100 Watts change Mass or Gravity? I really don't expect you can
answer that because it is too simple: one or both numbers provided
above will be different, that is all. Can you give us something as
specific as I have? In other words, for 100 Watts applied to a 10
meter long, 10 kilogram antenna, will its Mass change to
11 kilogram
or
9 kilogram? Or will gravity change to
9 · meter / second / second
or
8 · meter / second / second?
Only one or two very specific numbers have to shift here. Can you
tell us which or how much? This is, after all, your topic, your math,
your profession, and your chance to prove your point.
73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
No
...he replied, "I cannot."

Art leaves the leapfrogging in knowledge to future generations.

Dave K8MN- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If you want to get 'by' then by all means read all the technical books
that reflect the times, that makes you a follower.
If you want to go beyond the books then you have to do the research
and
that makes you a leader.

So, here's your chance to lead, Art. You've been offered a precious
opportunity to enlighten those reading this newsgroup. You've declined.

If you place your research in front of a
panel
of experts in the field and then get accepted, it then has a place in
future books thus providing a stepping stone for those that follow.

What "panel of experts" has accepted your research, Art?

This newsgroup is for followers of present day books.

Then, pray tell, what is a superior being such as yourself doing here
among the followers?

By the way, "no" does not equate to "cannot" in any language
It only equates for those who wish to jump the Grand Canyon in two
strides.

I didn't write anything about the word equating. I added words to it.

Dave K8MN

In the past, I've tried to buy books published in the future, but
they're not being printed any more.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH